<b>[Music]</b><b>Welcome to GenX Adulting and today Brian and I</b><b>are going to talk about</b><b>GenX core memories unlocked.</b><b>So I've made a list of things I</b><b>remember from my GenX childhood.</b><b>Brian's made a list but we</b><b>have not shared that list.</b><b>Even though sometimes throughout the week Brian</b><b>would start to talk to me about his list,</b><b>I would tell him to stop that we</b><b>need to save it for this episode.</b><b>Is that why you've not</b><b>engaged when I brought them up?</b><b>Yes. Okay.</b><b>I have a feeling my list is not as good as</b><b>yours because I've been struggling.</b><b>So I'm curious to hear what yours is and then</b><b>that may make my list evolve.</b><b>I think that there may</b><b>be a lot of similarities.</b><b>Like probably some things on my list you'll</b><b>say, "Oh yeah, you know."</b><b>And you'll be like,"Yeah, me too."</b><b>But I didn't want to know what was on your list</b><b>and I think that it's better</b><b>just to kind of surprise each other.</b><b>Because I'm curious how many we have are the</b><b>same and how many are different.</b><b>We're from the opposite coasts.</b><b>I grew up on the West Coast in Oregon.</b><b>Brian grew up on the East Coast in New Jersey.</b><b>I don't know if that's</b><b>going to have any bearing on it.</b><b>I spent, actually my younger formative years,</b><b>preschool through second</b><b>grade in Northern California.</b><b>So I was more in a very much hippie vibe,</b><b>Northern California especially in the 70s.</b><b>You certainly were not.</b><b>No, I spent anything in my formative years.</b><b>It's Northern New Jersey outside of New York</b><b>City and then in Jersey City, which is right</b><b>across the river from New York.</b><b>But then I spent summers in West Virginia.</b><b>Right.</b><b>I had a very contrasting upbringing.</b><b>You did.</b><b>And I would spend part of my summer in Michigan</b><b>where my dad lived because</b><b>my parents were divorced.</b><b>Which is totally different from the West Coast</b><b>vibe of California and Oregon.</b><b>And New Jersey.</b><b>The Midwest has its own</b><b>completely different vibe.</b><b>So we'll see.</b><b>So I'm just going to start.</b><b>You go first because I</b><b>have a feeling my list sucks.</b><b>Compared to yours, but you go and we'll...</b><b>Yeah, I already know there's</b><b>a couple of things on here.</b><b>I just know.</b><b>So the first thing that comes to mind for me</b><b>when I made this list, and it's going to be</b><b>weird, but it was my favorite candy.</b><b>And it was called Tangy Taffy.</b><b>And you can't get it now.</b><b>And so...</b><b>Oh really?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So it was like a stick.</b><b>When did that stop?</b><b>Because I could have sworn</b><b>I'd have recollection of it.</b><b>So there's Laffy Taffy.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And Laffy Taffy has small squares, I think.</b><b>And then it has like a bigger stick that's</b><b>like, I don't know, maybe seven inches long by</b><b>like two inches wide and it's flat.</b><b>But then Tangy Taffy was</b><b>my absolute favorite candy.</b><b>And all through my childhood,</b><b>7-Eleven, any convenience store.</b><b>That's what I bought.</b><b>When I told the story on the other episode</b><b>where I would go and pick up trash at the</b><b>baseball diamond and she would give me candy.</b><b>That was one of the things she would give me.</b><b>I would eat that walking home.</b><b>Interesting.</b><b>Like holding it just like...</b><b>Is there a particular flavor?</b><b>Cherry.</b><b>Cherry.</b><b>Cherry.</b><b>It was so good.</b><b>And I think the last time I had it was...</b><b>Honestly, I think when we were first married,</b><b>so I was probably like 23.</b><b>And then it just disappeared.</b><b>Do you think it's still</b><b>available on the West Coast?</b><b>Someone has to chime in because we</b><b>haven't been back in a few years.</b><b>So did you not have Tangy Taffy?</b><b>I don't know.</b><b>I recall us having some type of Taffy.</b><b>Well, we had...</b><b>So growing up in New Jersey,</b><b>we used to go to the shore.</b><b>Well, yeah, that's different though.</b><b>That's saltwater Taffy.</b><b>Saltwater Taffy.</b><b>Yeah, we had that in Oregon at the coast.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>At the beach.</b><b>I do recall some really sugary, tangy,</b><b>chemically flat type of</b><b>shit that you would eat.</b><b>That's probably it.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But I wonder if that's from when we met and...</b><b>You tried it?</b><b>Yeah, maybe.</b><b>I don't know.</b><b>So I also like Charleston Choo.</b><b>That's funny.</b><b>That was going to...</b><b>When you said...</b><b>Would you say Laffy or Tangy?</b><b>Tangy Taffy.</b><b>Tangy Taffy.</b><b>I thought of Charleston Choo.</b><b>Charleston Choo.</b><b>Yeah, I love those.</b><b>Yeah, Charleston Choo was so good.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So those were...</b><b>And then Bit of Honey.</b><b>Yeah, those are good.</b><b>I liked Bit of Honey.</b><b>I don't...</b><b>I think Bit of Honey you can</b><b>get places like Bass Pro Shops.</b><b>I feel like that shows up for Halloween only.</b><b>Maybe.</b><b>Gosh, I don't even know the</b><b>last time I saw Bit of Honey.</b><b>I feel like at least when Nathan and Kai were</b><b>younger, throwing their candy out on the carpet</b><b>and going through it.</b><b>Yeah, but that's like...</b><b>That was almost 20 years ago.</b><b>They're older now.</b><b>And then I loved Hubba Bubba.</b><b>Hubba Bubba was awesome.</b><b>That was my...</b><b>Bubble Yum.</b><b>Bubble Yum and Hubba Bubba.</b><b>Yeah, that was good.</b><b>Those were my gums.</b><b>What about Big League Chew?</b><b>Nope.</b><b>You didn't...</b><b>I mean, I know.</b><b>I knew of it.</b><b>Yeah, yeah, yeah.</b><b>But I was not interested in that now.</b><b>I loved that because as a baseball player, as a</b><b>kid, they mimic the Big League guys.</b><b>Of course.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Because they chewed tobacco.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It was completely accepted back then.</b><b>It was.</b><b>I used to chew too when we were in high school.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So I think that was more...</b><b>Back then, I think it was a gender thing.</b><b>I didn't know any girls</b><b>that chewed Big League Chew.</b><b>Nobody did.</b><b>So that's...</b><b>Yeah. So what's something on your list?</b><b>Well, let's stick to the candy.</b><b>Oh, okay.</b><b>I would say my favorite</b><b>candies as a kid were Jolly Ranchers.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>And then Red Twizzlers.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You're like, you're not...</b><b>Red Vines.</b><b>Red Vines.</b><b>Yeah, yeah, yeah.</b><b>Is that a West Coast thing or just...</b><b>Because we did have</b><b>Twizzlers, but I rarely eat Twizzlers.</b><b>I like Red Vines.</b><b>I do recall going to the movies, ordering like</b><b>a Pepsi or a Coke, the big bag of Twizzlers.</b><b>Or actually, we got to the point</b><b>where you'd sneak them in, right?</b><b>You'd go to the store and</b><b>buy them and sneak them in.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then drinking your Pepsi</b><b>or Coke through the Twizzlers.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Right?</b><b>Would you ever do that?</b><b>Yeah, no.</b><b>So good.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then what was the first thing you said?</b><b>You said Twizzlers and then what...</b><b>Jolly Ranchers.</b><b>Jolly Ranchers.</b><b>Didn't you sell those at school?</b><b>I did.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I had a nice little racket going.</b><b>I'd go to the Acme, which they don't really</b><b>exist too much anymore.</b><b>I don't think so.</b><b>Go to the Acme.</b><b>You could buy a bag for 79 cents, and then I</b><b>would pack them up in my pockets and go sell</b><b>them for like a quarter each in junior high.</b><b>I had a lot of money on me at the...</b><b>You know, relatively speaking, I had bills.</b><b>What's crazy is that if those kids had even a</b><b>quarter or two, they could have bought their</b><b>own bag for 79 cents.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So I think it was a convenience thing.</b><b>I had access.</b><b>I live kind of...</b><b>Yeah, you walked across the street.</b><b>That's right.</b><b>Where you lived.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So did you ever wear wide leg pants?</b><b>What are wide leg pants?</b><b>Like bell bottoms?</b><b>No.</b><b>No?</b><b>No way.</b><b>Not even in the 70s.</b><b>No.</b><b>When we were younger.</b><b>I would have picked on people if they did that.</b><b>East coast.</b><b>That wasn't cool.</b><b>Oh, that's so funny.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So when I...</b><b>Maybe it's me though, but it's...</b><b>So when I was in second...</b><b>No.</b><b>First and second grade</b><b>specifically, I remember wearing...</b><b>This is in Northern California.</b><b>We call them wide leg pants, but I think bell</b><b>bottoms was the official name.</b><b>And when you'd walk, they were so wide that it</b><b>goes swish, swish, swish, swish, like the</b><b>quarter right?</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>Quarter right?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Quarter right?</b><b>Like you'd hear it as you're walking.</b><b>That was a huge thing.</b><b>So we all wore...</b><b>I feel like...</b><b>I would have to say almost my earliest</b><b>recollection of bell bottoms</b><b>might be like older girls in</b><b>town, but maybe it's like the Bad</b><b>News Bears watching the TV show.</b><b>That's how I dressed.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Not like that show.</b><b>Like that was...</b><b>I think you probably didn't...</b><b>Didn't you wear...</b><b>Like we would wear knee</b><b>high socks with the stripes.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Sometimes I'd wear nylon shorts.</b><b>The girls did.</b><b>It'd be like nylon...</b><b>Like the blue...</b><b>Like satiny shorts.</b><b>Like satiny short shorts,</b><b>even though I was young.</b><b>And then the knee high socks and sneakers.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Like blue Nike's or something.</b><b>Well...</b><b>I don't even know the brand.</b><b>It wasn't a thing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I mean, once I got to fourth...</b><b>No, fifth grade, the preppy handbook came out.</b><b>Sixth grade.</b><b>The preppy handbook came out.</b><b>Was that a thing for you?</b><b>I don't recall ever hearing that.</b><b>We had a very preppy face, but I</b><b>don't recall the preppy handbook.</b><b>That was huge.</b><b>At least that was when I</b><b>was in Oregon and Portland.</b><b>Beaverton to be exact.</b><b>The preppy handbook came out and we all wore</b><b>penny loafers and we put</b><b>pennies in our loafers.</b><b>Wearing pink and green, like a certain color</b><b>pink and green, like Kelly green and like</b><b>not like a hot dark pink, but like a bright</b><b>light pink eyes on or now they call it Lacoste.</b><b>I mean, I think it was Lacoste them, but</b><b>everyone called it eyes on.</b><b>Popping the collars.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>Pop the collars.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That was girls and boys were that.</b><b>And that was the whole thing.</b><b>And then jeans.</b><b>I can't remember what jeans.</b><b>What year was that for you?</b><b>That's like sixth grade.</b><b>So that's why like 80, 82, 81, 82.</b><b>That was like eighth grade or ninth grade,</b><b>seventh, eighth, ninth grade type of thing.</b><b>I remember going into my freshman year of high</b><b>school dressed up like dressed up like</b><b>preppy.</b><b>And then for the first day, second day of</b><b>school, I think I was in sweats and the team,</b><b>you know, logo type of thing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Cause you're playing sports.</b><b>But I think because you lived, I lived in a</b><b>fairly, um, metropolite area.</b><b>And I think cause you lived in a small town in</b><b>a rural New Jersey, I think in towns like</b><b>that, you guys got things a little, even though</b><b>you're outside of New York city, I think you</b><b>still got things a little bit later than people</b><b>lived in, like in more suburbia.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Cause we got things like,</b><b>like that, like we got MTV.</b><b>That was on my list.</b><b>MTV, I think it came, it came</b><b>August, like August something 1981.</b><b>I can't remember exactly the day</b><b>we got MTV the day it premiered.</b><b>I remember coming home from school or whatever</b><b>day that was and watching the premiere video</b><b>killed the radio star was the</b><b>first video ever played on MTV.</b><b>I remember watching that and I</b><b>was addicted and that's what I did.</b><b>Like after school, after I get my chores done</b><b>and all that, I'd watch MTV, but I think you</b><b>guys got it after us.</b><b>Well, what's interesting is I have a cousin who</b><b>grew up in Jersey city.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And I remember her telling us about it and</b><b>waiting to your point, we didn't get it.</b><b>I don't think we got it to like, I dunno,</b><b>seventh or eighth grade, maybe six, whenever</b><b>it was, but it was after the fact.</b><b>I remember her saying, you</b><b>don't have MTV and she was shocked.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You know, you, you country people.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So I think, but MTV was, that was everything.</b><b>And it was just videos.</b><b>It was just music.</b><b>We had VJs like Martha Quinn and um, uh,</b><b>Goodwin, Mark Goodwin was one.</b><b>Martha Quinn.</b><b>It really drove the music scene back then.</b><b>Even the Grateful Dead came up with videos.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Right.</b><b>Everybody got sucked into it.</b><b>It changed everything because it gave us access</b><b>to, to scene, uh, who the music live, but</b><b>without having to go like before that, you</b><b>always had to go to a concert to see them.</b><b>Well, or if they performed at a variety show on</b><b>TV, it wasn't even that it was creative,</b><b>artistic videos.</b><b>Like just creative stuff.</b><b>Remember the Michael Jackson thriller video.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>I remember watching that a Christmas dinner</b><b>with the whole family glued in for like 20</b><b>minutes.</b><b>Michael Jackson thriller</b><b>changed everything for sure.</b><b>That was like a mini movie.</b><b>That was a masterpiece.</b><b>There's no question about it culturally changed</b><b>landscape, but, um, MTV in general,</b><b>in any musician you liked, any band you liked</b><b>to be able to have access to them</b><b>like that, to be able to watch a video of the</b><b>songs you like on repeat.</b><b>And it was cause it was 24 seven music videos</b><b>and nothing shocked me more than when MTV</b><b>stopped playing music</b><b>videos and it went into TV shows.</b><b>I was shocked.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Well, aren't there like three or four MTV</b><b>stations or isn't there like a classics and a,</b><b>I think if you pay extra for that, but I don't</b><b>even think that one plays all music.</b><b>It's, it's weird.</b><b>Like VH one used to be music</b><b>videos and then it went to.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It went to TV.</b><b>Different genre though.</b><b>Writers.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>I don't even know what it was, but</b><b>it was more like soft rock stuff.</b><b>Michael Bolton and well, MTV</b><b>kind of got taken over by rap.</b><b>I remember Friday and Saturday nights.</b><b>It was all rap run DMC.</b><b>And yeah, I don't even remember.</b><b>They would have like metal night too.</b><b>Or it was just like a Metallica and they had</b><b>the headbangers headbangers ball.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It was awesome.</b><b>And then it like kids that don't know there's,</b><b>you know, there's a whole</b><b>generation that's watched MTV as like a TV</b><b>channel to watch shows.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It's weird.</b><b>And they have no idea</b><b>that that was not it at all.</b><b>It was music television.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So MTV was really, it is</b><b>near and dear to my heart.</b><b>It was a huge part of my childhood.</b><b>I know some musicians still do videos.</b><b>Like Billy strings just did one.</b><b>He's done a couple, right?</b><b>Um, but I don't think</b><b>it's really a thing per se.</b><b>Like the red hot chili peppers.</b><b>They had great videos.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>No, I think that, um, I think that Pete, they</b><b>still make videos, but it's, it's</b><b>weird, I don't know where you watch them.</b><b>So that's, that's one MTV.</b><b>We sound like boomers.</b><b>I know what the hell's going on.</b><b>All right.</b><b>Your, your turn.</b><b>I was thinking, okay.</b><b>So on my list, um, do you</b><b>remember frozen dinners?</b><b>TV dinners.</b><b>Is that what they're called?</b><b>TV dinners.</b><b>Well, I called them TV dinners.</b><b>My mom, we'd go to the grocery store and we</b><b>walked the aisle and I always</b><b>picked mine based on the dessert.</b><b>That's so funny.</b><b>I think I did too.</b><b>Most people did.</b><b>Like I, I liked that red</b><b>stuff, whatever the hell it was.</b><b>Oh my God.</b><b>I forgot.</b><b>Was that, that wasn't like a cherry pie.</b><b>Wasn't it?</b><b>Well, for me, you know, like for me today, I</b><b>don't really microwave anything.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I honestly don't remember.</b><b>They were microwave then though.</b><b>You made them once not</b><b>everyone had microwaves right away.</b><b>Like when we first got TV</b><b>dinners, you made them in the oven.</b><b>No.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>I don't think so.</b><b>And then once people</b><b>started getting microwaves, yeah.</b><b>But I started out with making TV</b><b>dinners in the oven, not a microwave.</b><b>I, cause I don't use a</b><b>microwave today for the most part.</b><b>I don't know if I've used one at once this year</b><b>and we, I remember nuking them.</b><b>Like over nuking them and</b><b>they had the plastic on top.</b><b>You'd have to cut the hole to</b><b>make sure you desert, maybe it's</b><b>they've covered or whatever.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Maybe the meat.</b><b>If it was even meat.</b><b>So bad.</b><b>You think about your, your</b><b>microwaving and there's plastic.</b><b>Yeah, totally.</b><b>In some and chemicals in that.</b><b>Paper tray that's lined with some waxy.</b><b>Well, when we first got</b><b>them, they were in metal.</b><b>That's why they went into the oven.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So you have to remember earlier than me then.</b><b>Well, okay.</b><b>So I had a single mom, right?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So her and I would go and we, I'd get to pick</b><b>out, it was a big deal.</b><b>Like I get to pick out my TV</b><b>dinners and we'd make them in the oven.</b><b>And that the thing was metal.</b><b>Like it wasn't the plastic</b><b>or the paper or whatever.</b><b>And then I think my mom's</b><b>first microwave, um, it was huge.</b><b>And it was like $600 or something.</b><b>500 pounds.</b><b>It is so heavy.</b><b>It's like the TVs you see.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>It was like life changing,</b><b>obviously, but yeah, the TV dinners.</b><b>And then, um, I remember</b><b>like the fried chicken.</b><b>I can still picture the way the fried chicken</b><b>tastes in those TV dinners.</b><b>I, I, you know, a totally</b><b>different way of getting to these TV</b><b>dinners is I'm like our</b><b>kids very selective eating.</b><b>So my dad would be like, what am I going to,</b><b>what are you going to eat?</b><b>And I think I went in on TV</b><b>dinners once and he's like, okay.</b><b>So then I never went shopping.</b><b>Like you did like this.</b><b>It wasn't an event.</b><b>It was just like there were</b><b>TV dinners in the freezer.</b><b>Cause you had a turkey.</b><b>Yeah, probably.</b><b>But I had, I love that Turkey one with the</b><b>slice turkey with the gravy.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>And the mashed potatoes.</b><b>And we would overnuke it.</b><b>So it would like burn on the sides.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It was like plasticy and that's so good.</b><b>That, that must wonder why</b><b>there's a whole epidemic.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Well, you know what, back then,</b><b>not everyone wasn't overweight.</b><b>Like people weren't</b><b>anyways, that's all another thing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But, um, the mashed potatoes almost tasted like</b><b>Kentucky fried chicken mashed potatoes.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>So good.</b><b>And I remember I'd get the</b><b>meatloaf one, but I think that's because</b><b>it had the brownie or something.</b><b>Meatloaf.</b><b>I forgot about it.</b><b>I had that weird, like catch</b><b>up line of shit at the top.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>No, I love the TV dinners.</b><b>Do they even have TV dinners now?</b><b>I don't know.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>I have, I'm announcing</b><b>something we're going to do.</b><b>So Gen X adulting is we're going to go see if</b><b>they have TV dinners and if they do,</b><b>we're going to get them and we're going to do a</b><b>live and we'll have TV dinners and</b><b>people can come in and talk to you.</b><b>You're a, you're gluten free.</b><b>You think you're going to pull them off?</b><b>There'll be something like</b><b>I'll be able to eat something.</b><b>I know.</b><b>We'll get the turkey dinner.</b><b>You can have my corn.</b><b>There you go.</b><b>You never know.</b><b>Now there could be gluten free</b><b>turkey dinners with the way life.</b><b>I'm going to double up.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>I'm going to double up on the food thing.</b><b>Did you ever have steak comes?</b><b>No, I did not even know</b><b>what that was until I met you.</b><b>Really?</b><b>I don't, I still don't</b><b>really know what that is.</b><b>It's like super thin sliced.</b><b>They said it was beef.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Not sure, but it was super sliced, super thin</b><b>sliced beef that you would fry in a</b><b>pan with like either butter or like in my dad's</b><b>case, he'd save the oil.</b><b>Cause my dad cooked.</b><b>He'd save the oil in the, in the</b><b>can and spread a little oil in there.</b><b>Throw a couple of steak comes on, dump a ton of</b><b>salt and a ton of pepper.</b><b>So good.</b><b>So wait, was it frozen?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So you're buying like frozen sliced beef.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That's a good way to put it.</b><b>And then you would just, your dad would just</b><b>take it apart and like cook them.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You would almost get like, cause it would be</b><b>like maybe that thick or something.</b><b>I don't know, something like that.</b><b>And you'd kind of get a knife and you'd</b><b>separate them and then throw them in the</b><b>frying pan and do they still have steak comes?</b><b>I don't know.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Well, I'm gluing.</b><b>I would eat some of those.</b><b>I, we're going to have to go on like an old,</b><b>you know, we'll do an old school</b><b>fight some tangy taffy.</b><b>In fact, if, if anyone listens to this and you</b><b>want to put in the comments.</b><b>Food, you remember, we'll try to find it.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then we'll do a live one</b><b>night with all the different foods.</b><b>So, um, yeah, that'd be cool.</b><b>Trip to Walmart.</b><b>Maybe.</b><b>Right.</b><b>I don't know if I know publics might have it.</b><b>Maybe target.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So, um, did you watch electric company?</b><b>Electric company.</b><b>Which one was that I did, I</b><b>did, but I just don't remember.</b><b>Um, just these funky people singing.</b><b>It was like one of the show is like Sesame.</b><b>So there was Sesame street, mr.</b><b>Rogers and electric company.</b><b>I remember it was like, like hip and cool.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Like it was cooler.</b><b>And that guy wore bell bottoms.</b><b>Um, I feel like he was in yellow, no orange.</b><b>I don't know.</b><b>Maybe I'm getting confused with</b><b>yo gabba gabba cause yo gabba gabba</b><b>has electric company vibes.</b><b>But, um, so when I was in daycare, uh, we would</b><b>all sit around one of those</b><b>TVs, it's like the wooden TV and all of us kids</b><b>would sit around it and we'd</b><b>watch electric company, we'd</b><b>watch, um, Sesame street, mr.</b><b>Rogers, and also at home,</b><b>at home, I would watch mr.</b><b>Rogers too.</b><b>Cause memory had those weird puppets that like</b><b>old, like the old people or the</b><b>king and the queen, those</b><b>weird stuff going on there.</b><b>Puppets.</b><b>Now that I look back and I'm</b><b>like, those are weird puppets.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But I did love mr.</b><b>Rogers.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>All his messages.</b><b>I loved how he came in the OCD and me love the</b><b>fact he came in and put on new shoes.</b><b>He had house shoes.</b><b>So he took off the shoes that were</b><b>dirty and he put on his clean suit.</b><b>I was obsessed with that.</b><b>And then he put on a new jacket, his cardigan</b><b>indoors, switch, switch,</b><b>got his jacket and put on his cardigan.</b><b>And I was like, yes,</b><b>that's, I love that about mr.</b><b>Rogers.</b><b>You know, a lot of people pick on him for being</b><b>weird and stuff, right?</b><b>It's kind of, yeah.</b><b>He's got that reputation</b><b>of just being kind of weird.</b><b>Same with what's his name?</b><b>The painter Bob Ross.</b><b>Bob Ross.</b><b>But these are kind of in</b><b>hindsight and modern times.</b><b>These guys are fairly wholesome, pure, pure,</b><b>wholesome, decent people.</b><b>Kind of could use a little more.</b><b>I think so too.</b><b>I love mr.</b><b>So many lessons.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The, the trolley, the trolley would take you to</b><b>that land where the puppets were.</b><b>You know, um, mr.</b><b>Ed, I never watched mr.</b><b>Ed was in the same never watched it.</b><b>Why?</b><b>Because of animal rights.</b><b>No, no, no.</b><b>I, it was just never, I never watched it.</b><b>What about the Beverly hillbilly?</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>I watched that and I</b><b>watched, um, little rascals.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I love little rascals.</b><b>It was all black and white.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then leave it to beaver.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>And I loved, I love Lucy, but</b><b>all of these were black and white.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Honeymooners.</b><b>No, I didn't watch that.</b><b>You didn't watch that.</b><b>No, that weird.</b><b>I didn't watch that.</b><b>I didn't watch.</b><b>When I was a kid, 17th grade,</b><b>ninth, whatever, we would go roller</b><b>skating every Saturday night and come home.</b><b>That's a core memory.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It's a core memory.</b><b>Watch with roller skate,</b><b>come home around 11, 11 30 ish.</b><b>Catch the tail end of a Yankee game.</b><b>If it was still on watch star trek and then the</b><b>honeymooners, but I don't</b><b>remember if honeymooners was first or second,</b><b>but I'd watch star trek in the</b><b>honeymooners honeymooners every night.</b><b>I've seen every episode of that.</b><b>Really?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>A hundred percent.</b><b>So star trek, I would watch like after school</b><b>time when I'd get home,</b><b>like there'd be reruns.</b><b>So I'd watch, I didn't watch it like the night.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The night of, uh, no, it was okay.</b><b>So the night of shows.</b><b>Well, Saturday night live too.</b><b>I didn't really watch that</b><b>till I got older, but I did.</b><b>I remember being in second grade and Steve</b><b>Martin premiered the song King Tut.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And my parent, my mom and my</b><b>stepdad were having a party.</b><b>It was Northern California.</b><b>I was like, margaritas were flowing.</b><b>I was in my room and I had a little TV black</b><b>and white and it was on my dresser.</b><b>And I remember sitting in my room and watching</b><b>that and I was mesmerized by that</b><b>song, it became my favorite song.</b><b>Like that, that and the whole King Tut movement</b><b>of like 1978 or something.</b><b>Like, remember, I don't know</b><b>about you, but it took over.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Like in Northern on the West coast, like</b><b>everyone was talking about King Tut.</b><b>I think they had</b><b>discovered King Tut or something.</b><b>It was around that time.</b><b>I think they had, I think</b><b>they had discovered his remains.</b><b>That would make sense.</b><b>Cause why else would Steve</b><b>Martin be doing a bit on it?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Probably was topical.</b><b>It was, but that song was awesome.</b><b>I could still sing that song</b><b>and his whole stick with that.</b><b>But it's speaking of like</b><b>shows that I did not miss.</b><b>And I think these were on</b><b>Saturday night was, and it went in order.</b><b>And I don't want to get the order wrong, but I</b><b>believe it started with chips.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Loveboat.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Fantasy Island.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Every Saturday.</b><b>I actually had them on my list.</b><b>They were earlier.</b><b>I think, um, actually I want to say fantasy</b><b>Island came on at nine o'clock.</b><b>No, I think Loveboat came on at nine and</b><b>fantasy Island came on at 10.</b><b>Oh, really?</b><b>It did.</b><b>I remember.</b><b>And cause I could stay up and watch it because</b><b>I, um, it was a Saturday.</b><b>And then I loved threes company.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>That was a different night.</b><b>That was a week night.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It feels like it.</b><b>Um, Laverne and Shirley.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>And happy days.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Trying to think, Oh, and, um, Alice.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Alice's restaurant.</b><b>WKRP in Cincinnati.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Love that.</b><b>And I love that song.</b><b>I still love it.</b><b>Sometimes yacht rock will play it.</b><b>And then, um, Oh, what's that other one where</b><b>they're in a news station?</b><b>Um, WKRP.</b><b>No.</b><b>Did you just say that?</b><b>I did.</b><b>They're reporters in a news Barney.</b><b>Barney.</b><b>It'll come to me.</b><b>It's a bunch of reporters.</b><b>Uh, it'll come to me.</b><b>I know what you're talking about.</b><b>There was also, I had on my list, um, the</b><b>people's court or night court,</b><b>whatever it was, we got a little older.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That's like middle school ish.</b><b>You know, it's wild.</b><b>We're saying all this and I'm</b><b>trying to piece it together.</b><b>Like, how did I watch Saturday Night Live, the</b><b>honeymooners and Star Trek?</b><b>Like what and plus Yankee games.</b><b>I don't know what, how that</b><b>it's all blending because those</b><b>were Saturday night shows.</b><b>I watched Saturday Night Live every episode</b><b>from when I was like, I didn't,</b><b>I didn't want to, I would see it sometimes, but</b><b>I think I was in bed by then.</b><b>We actually, so this is great.</b><b>Um, I guess this is a core memory, but, and</b><b>every Saturday night, my parents</b><b>would go out with my aunt and uncle.</b><b>And then we'd go, and I was,</b><b>this is pre roller skating days.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>That's how this lines up.</b><b>We'd go to my, uh, Tara's</b><b>house, aunt Lorraine and uncle,</b><b>Tommy's, my cousin Terry's.</b><b>And, uh, they would all go out to the bar,</b><b>fairs bar and end over by room, New Jersey.</b><b>And we would spend the night there and we had</b><b>this babysitter who would watch us.</b><b>Cause we're all pretty young.</b><b>She was kind of mean.</b><b>She was a bitch actually, but I</b><b>remember, um, but we'd all stay up</b><b>and watch Saturday night live.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So it was cool.</b><b>So that was young.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I didn't think I was allowed to stay up.</b><b>I mean, I, cause that was, it ended at 1am.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Because I remember once I got</b><b>older, I would like middle school.</b><b>I watch it.</b><b>And then, um, but I do remember watching John</b><b>Belushi and, um, like Rosanna Rosanna</b><b>Dan and all that.</b><b>So I think I caught it</b><b>at different times enough.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>What about Starsky and Hutch?</b><b>Oh, of course.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Dukes of hazard.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>That brings me to my next core</b><b>memory with the Dukes of hazard.</b><b>I remember recording the intro to Dukes of</b><b>hazard on like a cassette tape,</b><b>like, like these up here.</b><b>Like this, the song.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The song.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And that was the thing.</b><b>Oh, I've seen that on like</b><b>Instagram, like Gen X beams and whatever.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The struggle of putting together a playlist</b><b>that the struggle was real.</b><b>Do you remember listening to, um, Casey Kasem</b><b>top 20 count down every Sunday morning?</b><b>And then you'd have your boom box.</b><b>I would, and I'd take a blank tape</b><b>and I would, when it was a song, I</b><b>knew I wanted, I would hit record.</b><b>So I would make a mix tape</b><b>off of Casey Kasem's top 20.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>No doubt.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And I would wait.</b><b>And then you still have to stop it and you'd</b><b>have to, you know, be, pay extra</b><b>attention so that you could get the beginning</b><b>and the end of your song.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah. I remember being a kid going to Sunday school</b><b>and then my dad usually drove us</b><b>and we'd be sitting in the car</b><b>sometimes and, and sitting, waiting.</b><b>Instead of hopping out for the number one song.</b><b>Cause it was the countdown.</b><b>Oh, it was a big deal.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And I never missed that.</b><b>I remember when, uh,</b><b>foreigner urgent was number one.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That was a big song.</b><b>Right.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So did you, um, have metal</b><b>lunchbox, a metal lunchbox?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You're gonna give me a</b><b>minute to think of what one I had.</b><b>Dukes of hazard.</b><b>I had a few because every year I got a new one.</b><b>I know I had Dukes of hazard.</b><b>Um, gosh, I can't think what, Oh, I wish I</b><b>could remember what other,</b><b>I know for sure.</b><b>I can picture the Dukes of hazard one.</b><b>And can you, can you can hear that sound when</b><b>you click the thing and you open it</b><b>and then did you have a</b><b>thermos inside that matched?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>A hundred.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I don't even, I didn't</b><b>even bring soup to school.</b><b>I think I would fill it with water because I</b><b>wanted to use that thermos so bad.</b><b>So the lunchbox was like, for</b><b>years I would get the metal lunchbox.</b><b>So that's, that's what I think.</b><b>That's all they made.</b><b>Probably.</b><b>Right. We didn't necessarily grow</b><b>up in a plastic generation.</b><b>No.</b><b>And then it switched to plastic</b><b>and then it switched to plastic.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So, um, do you remember</b><b>Greece being a big deal?</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>The movie Greece.</b><b>Do you remember going to see it in the theater?</b><b>In the movie theater.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I think we saw it for the</b><b>first time at the Newton drive-in.</b><b>Oh, wow.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I feel like I think we saw it as another thing.</b><b>It was right.</b><b>And I remember vividly the night we went, we</b><b>went with my mom and my aunt and my</b><b>uncle, my cousins, and I remember sitting down,</b><b>the movie Greece changed my life.</b><b>I had never seen, I think I was in, Oh my gosh,</b><b>that would have been like 1979.</b><b>So that was probably what like second grade.</b><b>I, um, it was life changing.</b><b>I remember leaving there and</b><b>never being the same again.</b><b>There was something about that movie, the</b><b>music, the magic of it.</b><b>And it's still, I still cherish that movie.</b><b>And I remember my, one of my good friends at</b><b>the time, Alicia, she had genes.</b><b>And on the back pocket was the grease symbol.</b><b>I wanted those so bad.</b><b>We actually have the grease album.</b><b>It's mine.</b><b>Yeah, I know that I got then.</b><b>I remember going with my stepdad to a record</b><b>store and picking out that</b><b>album and I don't even know how he bought it,</b><b>but I would listen to his double</b><b>album.</b><b>I listened to that album every day.</b><b>I can't even tell you for at least, I don't</b><b>know, for years, like I loved that.</b><b>Greece was like pivotal for me.</b><b>And I, I wonder if for all Gen Xers, if they</b><b>like, if it was so monumental,</b><b>maybe just girls, I don't know.</b><b>No, I, I, it's absolutely.</b><b>Even for boys that has an impact.</b><b>I would think so.</b><b>The boys, the greasers, right?</b><b>And the racing and the whole</b><b>water thing and the drama and tension.</b><b>This is, and then waiting Sandy and seeing</b><b>Sandy go from like, yes, prim and proper</b><b>to this, like this hot pad, some leather.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I'll never forget when she walked up, I was mad</b><b>because I thought it was a different woman.</b><b>Like I didn't, it took me a minute to realize</b><b>she had transformed because I was</b><b>like seven or eight maybe.</b><b>And I thought, oh my God,</b><b>another woman's trying to steal Danny.</b><b>And then it was her.</b><b>And I was like, and then</b><b>those leather pants she had on.</b><b>Oh my God.</b><b>So that was, that was a</b><b>living Newton John, right?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So we all boys my age, I</b><b>think I had a crush on her.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So her and the wet Farrah Fawcett.</b><b>Right.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I mean, yeah, yeah.</b><b>Of course Farrah Fawcett was a</b><b>little boy's sex symbol type of thing.</b><b>Suzanne Summers.</b><b>Suzanne Summers.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Cheryl Ladd, I think.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The Daisy from the Duke.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>You know, um, Bach, Catherine Bach.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So Charlie's angels, that</b><b>was on a different night.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then, um, are you just</b><b>reminding me of another one?</b><b>Well, let me ask the bionic man.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then the woman, yeah.</b><b>Wonder Woman Wonder Woman.</b><b>But no, the, um, so the million dream, Magini,</b><b>no, it's the million dollar</b><b>man and the bionic woman member.</b><b>It was Lindsay Wagner.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Was the bionic woman.</b><b>I was obsessed with that.</b><b>I liked the million dollar man,</b><b>but I loved the bionic was that,</b><b>was that what the hell's his name?</b><b>Uh, Lee majors.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Lee major.</b><b>So that's when it would go, yeah.</b><b>And he would be like super strong and shit.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>What about the Hulk with Lou Ferrigno?</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And there's a funny thing.</b><b>Uh, I saw a meme about</b><b>back then we didn't have CGI.</b><b>Our Hulk actually had to have muscles.</b><b>Like those are those muscles, you know?</b><b>Um, so those were all on, but then Charlie's</b><b>angels and all, I think</b><b>they were all kind of sex symbols.</b><b>I have two.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Um, one, just thinking of the</b><b>plastic stuff and I had it on my list.</b><b>This you probably never had</b><b>a stretch arm strong, right?</b><b>No.</b><b>Was he red?</b><b>No, he was the guys have to remember this.</b><b>He was this figure.</b><b>It talk about plastic.</b><b>He was figure like this</b><b>rubbery shell in a body, right?</b><b>It was muscular body with like blonde hair and</b><b>you could stretch them and you</b><b>could pull them in different directions.</b><b>We all had it as kids.</b><b>So kind of like the movie, the Incredibles.</b><b>How, not even, not even close.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>This is straight arms.</b><b>I've never heard of stretch arm strong.</b><b>That's amazing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But I bet that's cause I'm a girl.</b><b>I'm sure stretch arm</b><b>strong was on the West coast.</b><b>Oh, no, there's any.</b><b>It was like probably Hasbro or okay.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Um, so here's the other one</b><b>when you mentioned Greece.</b><b>Now I was, I can go there with Greece, but were</b><b>you a footloose person?</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>I saw it in the theater.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Um, that was life changing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That's what I was curious.</b><b>The opening to that movie was like insane.</b><b>There was like, I don't remember it.</b><b>It was the song, the footloose song.</b><b>And then it was like feet dancing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But it was tapping or something.</b><b>That song is insane.</b><b>That song is still so good.</b><b>And that was Kenny, Kenny Loggins.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And, um, I remember I never</b><b>heard anything like that before.</b><b>I was going to stand up, but</b><b>I just messed up your video.</b><b>I was going to grab a cassette for people who</b><b>don't know what a cassette looks like.</b><b>I'm well, I think they</b><b>can look on the internet.</b><b>We have at some point we should do a tour of</b><b>the studio to show people.</b><b>We should do a live or something.</b><b>Um, cause there is a whole</b><b>bunch of cassettes hanging over</b><b>Brian's head right now that</b><b>he's collected over the years.</b><b>Most of them are grateful to bootlegs.</b><b>Um, okay.</b><b>So what was I saying?</b><b>The Kenny Loggins.</b><b>So it was a footloose, but then he also, he</b><b>sang a lot, a lot of good ones.</b><b>Like for Top Gun, he sang danger zones.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Danger zone.</b><b>Really?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>He was hot in the, in</b><b>the seventies and eighties.</b><b>That was the Kenny Loggins.</b><b>Uh, was he a musician or a singer?</b><b>It was Loggins and</b><b>Messina is how he started out.</b><b>No, I love their amazing.</b><b>I know down at Pooh corner.</b><b>Oh my God.</b><b>But then, um, then he took off</b><b>with, he had like I'm all right.</b><b>And, um, this is it like a</b><b>whole bunch of good songs.</b><b>Why don't you sing those?</b><b>No.</b><b>Anyways, footloose life changing.</b><b>That's what I figured.</b><b>100%.</b><b>I can't say I agree.</b><b>I mean, I respect it, but it's not, I had a</b><b>feeling it was more, I think a</b><b>chick flick where, you know, everyone fell in</b><b>love with, uh, Kevin Bacon.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>100%.</b><b>Isn't his wife the star in that?</b><b>Like his real wife.</b><b>No, no.</b><b>Kara Sedgwick.</b><b>She's in, she's in that.</b><b>She was, I discovered Kara Sedgwick in singles.</b><b>That may be singles, which is</b><b>another good Gen X flick that singles.</b><b>If anyone really wants to know the vibe of the</b><b>grunge movement in real time</b><b>singles was filmed has what's her name in it.</b><b>That has a Kara Sedgwick.</b><b>It has a Bridget Fonda.</b><b>Um, Chris Cornell makes an appearance in it.</b><b>So does Eddie Vedder, Matt Dillon.</b><b>But who's the one, the one that I liked.</b><b>Who?</b><b>Oh no.</b><b>You're thinking of reality bites.</b><b>We're known a writer.</b><b>Reality bites.</b><b>Another excellent Gen X flick.</b><b>Oh my gosh.</b><b>So relatable love reality bites.</b><b>That's actually on my list.</b><b>Um, what I saw today, actually, and this really</b><b>pisses me off that we were not</b><b>dialed in, uh, red, hot chili peppers.</b><b>Um, Pearl jam and Nirvana.</b><b>I think it was, it was a triple</b><b>billing at the Salem Armory in 1992.</b><b>So we were in Oregon.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>We were within driving distance of Salem and</b><b>the tickets were like seven,</b><b>16 bucks or something in college.</b><b>Yeah, we should have gone.</b><b>That's crazy.</b><b>Stupid.</b><b>We miss the that's, that's the, where you</b><b>without the internet, you didn't know</b><b>everything that was going on.</b><b>Not at all.</b><b>You had to either get to be</b><b>dialed in on some mailing list.</b><b>Probably something like, I don't know how we</b><b>would find out about stuff, but yeah.</b><b>No, that would have been insane.</b><b>Oh my gosh.</b><b>That's crazy.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So I know, you know that this, I</b><b>know this is a core memory for you.</b><b>It's smoking the bandit.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>Smoking the band.</b><b>My favorite movie.</b><b>I know.</b><b>And then cannonball run.</b><b>Oh, a hundred percent.</b><b>So those had that vibe, right?</b><b>I was watching those when I was like in first</b><b>grade and there's nudity.</b><b>There's like, yeah, there's a scene in</b><b>cannonball run where the one guy</b><b>watches behind the green door, which is a porn.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Um, what was the, the, um, I'll use the nice</b><b>term, the over the larger guide.</b><b>Dom de la.</b><b>We yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>What a comedian.</b><b>He was great.</b><b>And then do you remember that movie?</b><b>Um, convoy.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>With Chris, Chris, officer.</b><b>So do you remember that?</b><b>Like truckers were big for a while.</b><b>Like for CB radios.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And CB radios were like a big deal.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We had a CB radio.</b><b>My dad had one and I actually want one.</b><b>The CB absolutely in the car.</b><b>A hundred percent for my Jeep.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Anyways.</b><b>Um, yeah, for we, there was</b><b>like a whole trucker thing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It was the same time.</b><b>There was a member of DJ and the bear.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>And then it was like something</b><b>about big Ben or something big Ben.</b><b>I don't know.</b><b>I'm maybe I'm confusing stuff, but.</b><b>Oh, do you remember, um, the guy who had like</b><b>seven girlfriends, he was a trucker</b><b>and he had seven girlfriends and I can't</b><b>remember the name of it, but that song.</b><b>Um, yes.</b><b>Oh my gosh.</b><b>Somebody's going to know, but it was a trucking</b><b>trucker guy and he had seven girlfriends.</b><b>It was something about, Oh</b><b>gosh, I can't remember now.</b><b>It'll come to me though.</b><b>You know what was smoking a bandit.</b><b>This could potentially be embarrassing, but my</b><b>two of my best friends, uh, my</b><b>buddies, Matt and Kevin, and I would watch</b><b>smoking a bandit very frequently in high</b><b>school, like after school, like we'd watch it.</b><b>You're still watching it.</b><b>We're still watching it.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And, and smoking the bandit too as well.</b><b>Right.</b><b>Yeah, but it wasn't as good.</b><b>The original was the, yeah.</b><b>I remember going to see smoking</b><b>the bandit with my dad or smoke.</b><b>I think I have a good memory of</b><b>that as smoking the bandit too.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So did you, um, have one of those viewfinder</b><b>things that you would go click</b><b>like you look at it like, um,</b><b>like, but not, oh, yeah, yeah.</b><b>Like in binoculars, circular</b><b>disc pictures and you can advance.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So you could pick the type of like, you could</b><b>pick like, uh, Europe and it would</b><b>be like pictures of different countries in</b><b>Europe and I love those.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That was like, it's great.</b><b>I forgot about that.</b><b>And then you didn't have a</b><b>banana seat on your bike, right?</b><b>I did.</b><b>I had the, uh, Huffy buckaroo,</b><b>uh, and you had a banana seat.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>I forget.</b><b>I had to be young fifth, sixth grade, maybe</b><b>something, but I had the</b><b>Huffy buckaroo with the long banana seat and</b><b>the bar that, you know, the kind of</b><b>the thing you could press your</b><b>ass on that and then do wheelies.</b><b>Oh, well, I was not doing</b><b>that, but I loved my banana seat.</b><b>And so I had that when I was like first grade,</b><b>second grade, third grade,</b><b>I guess, did all kids bikes have banana bikes?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I don't know why they got rid of them.</b><b>Banana seats were comfortable.</b><b>They were so comfortable.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So this is so random.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So you woke up, I think most Gen</b><b>Xers, Saturday morning cartoons</b><b>were the highlight of our lives.</b><b>I was bowling.</b><b>You were bowling on Saturday morning.</b><b>So wait, you didn't wake up.</b><b>No, I did.</b><b>I did.</b><b>I think I would wake up and again, a lot of</b><b>this stuff blends, right?</b><b>Cause you jump into different things over time,</b><b>but it wasn't wake up and go do</b><b>some like recreational sport per</b><b>se until you hit a certain age.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Like it feels like with our</b><b>kids, it's like get up and go.</b><b>Right.</b><b>No, but yeah, the cartoons, remember like they</b><b>had those Olympic things.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>And the Smurfs were all the rage.</b><b>And like the superheroes, like Superman,</b><b>Batman, what was that Olympic thing?</b><b>You just totally unlocked a core memory.</b><b>What was like animals competing?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>They were competing and they had</b><b>announcers and they were like almost</b><b>announcing it like adults, they were probably</b><b>seeing inappropriate shit,</b><b>but we had no clue.</b><b>I can picture it now, but I</b><b>totally forgot about that show.</b><b>We have to find out what that show was called.</b><b>I love that.</b><b>So I would come out, get out of bed, make</b><b>cereal, probably, I think it was</b><b>like a sugar sear like</b><b>frosted flakes or something.</b><b>Yeah, that's all we had.</b><b>And I would sit in front of</b><b>the TV and watch Saturday morning</b><b>cartoons for like three hours easily.</b><b>I feel like I would do</b><b>that and then go bowling.</b><b>I used to bowl every Saturday</b><b>morning for some age period.</b><b>I don't know what it was.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And I do remember it was during the Smurfs</b><b>because the Smurfs, everyone at the bowl</b><b>and all he's talking about the Smurfs.</b><b>I love the Smurfs.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I was obsessed with the Smurfs.</b><b>I remember when the Smurfs, all of it.</b><b>Little Daisy Smurfs, whatever.</b><b>No, no, no.</b><b>It wasn't Daisy Smurfs.</b><b>I can't remember her name, but no, I was upset</b><b>and I had all the figurines.</b><b>They had Smurf figurines and I had</b><b>them on and I would like play it.</b><b>Like my Barbies.</b><b>That a cabbage patch.</b><b>I was never into that.</b><b>My sister and cousins were.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That whole thing.</b><b>I'm sure my mom was thrilled that I was not</b><b>into cabbage patch at all.</b><b>So, because remember there was like fighting.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>It was a huge deal.</b><b>People were getting in.</b><b>It was a big deal.</b><b>No, I was into Barbie.</b><b>I was so into Barbie.</b><b>I had so many Barbies and Ken's and the Smurfs.</b><b>I played Barbies.</b><b>You played with your sister and cousin.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Oh, I would play Barbies.</b><b>So that's one thing about, um, yeah, I didn't</b><b>have, I didn't grow up with siblings.</b><b>So I spent a lot of time on my own and I would</b><b>do a lot of like make believe</b><b>play and stuff.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So, um, do you remember there was a Folgers</b><b>commercial where the sister like</b><b>answers the door, this got this young man shows</b><b>up the door and a girl answers the</b><b>door and it's his sister, but</b><b>the way they're acting is weird.</b><b>Like you almost would think it might've been</b><b>her boyfriend, but you come to</b><b>find out it's, it's their brother and sister.</b><b>It was the weirdest Folgers commercial.</b><b>I remember that.</b><b>No, no recollection at all.</b><b>I remember that.</b><b>It was like, she made him</b><b>coffee before anyone wakes up.</b><b>And then they're like</b><b>giving eyes to each other.</b><b>It was very weird.</b><b>So you don't remember that Folgers commercial</b><b>that was on all the time.</b><b>And I remember being so</b><b>uncomfortable with that.</b><b>Um, do you remember that commercial that was,</b><b>uh, I can bring home the bacon.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>That was, that was a perfume.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So I'm going to say like</b><b>Angelie was not something like that.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>That lady was dancing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Oh, I completely remember.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That was the beginning of</b><b>the brainwashing of what?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That's where you guys gave up your feminine.</b><b>Any?</b><b>No, no.</b><b>It's where we had to buy into.</b><b>We can do it all and took on</b><b>everything instead of demanding.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>You want us to go work outside the home.</b><b>You need to help 50 50 in the house.</b><b>The domestic conversation never happened.</b><b>So that's, we've talked about this in other</b><b>episodes, but that commercial</b><b>is part of the propaganda that was fed because</b><b>I remember watching that and</b><b>thinking even at a young age,</b><b>Oh, I, I, I'm going to do it all.</b><b>I'm going to do everything.</b><b>Actually.</b><b>It's funny.</b><b>You say that cause there's guys were like, you</b><b>know, she was hot and it's like, I</b><b>got to get me one of them.</b><b>Well, there you go.</b><b>And therein lies the problem.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And therein lies why, why the Gen X women are</b><b>hitting midlife and telling the men,</b><b>I'm out of here.</b><b>If you don't need a hot woman who fries it up</b><b>in the pan and makes money.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It does the whole thing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It cleans your house.</b><b>Got to get to it.</b><b>That's your laundry.</b><b>No, it would take two or three to truly do it.</b><b>No, I'm there's no one</b><b>can do it all and do it all.</b><b>Um, well, somewhere along the line.</b><b>Yes. Somebody, somebody is, um, not getting what</b><b>they should, whether it's at work,</b><b>whether it's with your children, whether it's</b><b>your house, whether it's you got,</b><b>you got me started.</b><b>You got me started.</b><b>I it's a whole thing.</b><b>Anyways.</b><b>Did you keep a comb in your back pocket?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Me too.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That was a girl.</b><b>The black comb was your hair feathered.</b><b>My hair was so fathered.</b><b>So when we'd go to the roller rink, right?</b><b>You'd go to the roller rink.</b><b>You got a comb in your back pocket.</b><b>You start.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So us girls, we didn't totally, we did more of</b><b>like checking our hair, but</b><b>it was part down the middle feathered.</b><b>Now was yours a black comb or like a purple one</b><b>that kind of was bigger?</b><b>Cause I kind of remember those two.</b><b>So it was, no, it wasn't like the boring black.</b><b>It had the handle and it was sort of glittery,</b><b>pretty color with ours.</b><b>We had the, the kind of the wider teeth and</b><b>then the narrower teeth in a way.</b><b>No, no, this was just like a</b><b>cute comb, like a girl comb.</b><b>So speaking of roller skating, I also loved</b><b>going to the roller rink.</b><b>That's a huge core memory.</b><b>One of the things I remember from it is</b><b>privatized by Hall of notes.</b><b>They would play it.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>And when it would go that</b><b>everyone would stamp their, their skates.</b><b>I remember that I love the roller rink.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That was the best.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I wish that that was a thing still.</b><b>I think they're, I think they're around, but I</b><b>just think it's such a novelty.</b><b>Now it's probably so expensive.</b><b>All right.</b><b>Do you remember when arcades appeared?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Like we were alive when there were no video</b><b>games and then when arcades appeared.</b><b>That's not true.</b><b>We had the Atari 2600 and we had the, but we</b><b>were alive before all that.</b><b>Pong and but we were alive before that.</b><b>You know what I mean?</b><b>Like we, when we were young</b><b>is when video games came up.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So yeah.</b><b>Atari.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Was that Pong?</b><b>So Pong, but then arcades.</b><b>So we at the bowling</b><b>alley, they had arcade games.</b><b>So you'd bowl.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Then after bowling, you put</b><b>your quarters in and play games.</b><b>It was a quarter.</b><b>Doug asteroid pack.</b><b>Pac-Man and then Ms.</b><b>Pac-Man soup.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But Pac-Man, remember when Pac-Man came out?</b><b>That was huge.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That was huge.</b><b>I was so good at it.</b><b>I was so good at Ms.</b><b>Pac-Man, but it was a quarter.</b><b>It wasn't, we put our quarters in.</b><b>It was a quarter.</b><b>There were some games so that</b><b>then they jumped to 50 cents.</b><b>Well, like everything.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But I remember going to arcades and spending</b><b>time in arcades and you</b><b>would just, you literally, what you did there</b><b>was play games for like hours.</b><b>Where was, where was your arcade located?</b><b>Like we had one.</b><b>I was trying to, the mall, the mall.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That's the one of us.</b><b>Because we would go to the</b><b>mall and just walk around.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So orange Julius, did you have that?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Oh, nothing is so as good as an orange Julius.</b><b>They're so good.</b><b>Oh, I loved him.</b><b>It was like a creamsicle.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So we would walk around</b><b>and we'd go into the arcade.</b><b>We'd go to orange Julius.</b><b>We'd go to Spencer's.</b><b>Yeah, totally.</b><b>And there was like inappropriate stuff in there</b><b>that I totally didn't know what</b><b>it was, but I knew it wasn't okay.</b><b>And there was like Frederick's of Hollywood and</b><b>it was like, Ooh, because</b><b>I think that was before</b><b>Victoria's secret really took over.</b><b>I think Frederick's was our lingerie.</b><b>Yeah. You know, what I liked about Spencer's was</b><b>besides all the inappropriate shit.</b><b>Whereas the black room, like, or the black</b><b>light room, with all those cool</b><b>posters, black light, black light posters.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That was a whole thing.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>I, that would be cool.</b><b>Favorites was, uh, the Jim Morrison poster.</b><b>Do you remember that one?</b><b>It was the Jim Morrison black light.</b><b>No, not vivid.</b><b>That was so cool.</b><b>I forgot about the black light room.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So would you spend a ton of time at the mall?</b><b>A lot.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>No, I was going to say that that's one where I</b><b>don't think the kids do it a little</b><b>bit, but they burn out of it.</b><b>But we have the malls for us went from a young</b><b>age all the way up through, through</b><b>high school.</b><b>Well, because we were there</b><b>at the beginning of malls.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Probably the mall was like a</b><b>big deal because it was new.</b><b>Even for, even for like our parents, probably.</b><b>Oh, let's go to the mall.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>No, the mall was, was everything.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The mall is such a nostalgic feeling going to</b><b>the mall and it would just be this</b><b>wonderland you could spend</b><b>hours there with your friends.</b><b>I feel like back then, and I could be wrong,</b><b>but I feel like maybe there were</b><b>more stores that kids could go in, like middle</b><b>school, high school age kids could</b><b>go in where now, I don't know, like, you know,</b><b>there's like Lululemon and like</b><b>stuff like that, where I think</b><b>there was more like fun stores.</b><b>Well, for us, from what I</b><b>recall, we had the arcade.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Then you had like Walden books.</b><b>We'd go in, spend a lot of time in there.</b><b>We had a baseball shop card.</b><b>I used to collect baseball cards.</b><b>Um, there's none of that now.</b><b>There's a record store.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>The record store, you'd</b><b>walk up and down the aisle.</b><b>Did you have tower records?</b><b>Um, tower came later, but I don't, it felt like</b><b>we had the record store</b><b>kept changing for some reason.</b><b>He just completely unlocked a memory for me.</b><b>So in the mall, one of the things we would do</b><b>is go to tower records and spend</b><b>like a solid hour easily</b><b>looking through all the albums.</b><b>Like that was what we did.</b><b>And on the back behind the</b><b>cashiers were the new albums.</b><b>Like that had just come out.</b><b>So you could see what was new.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Um, tower records was a place as</b><b>soon as I would get to the mall.</b><b>First stop tower records.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And I would buy 45.</b><b>So you remember 45?</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>I saw why we still have them.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>So many 45s and you'd have to put that little</b><b>plastic desk in so you could play it.</b><b>Oh my gosh.</b><b>Quick sidebar on the vinyl.</b><b>So grateful that just released the beacon</b><b>theater in 1976 on vinyl.</b><b>And we got to get it.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Um, do you remember when</b><b>Walkmans came on the picture?</b><b>Yep.</b><b>And what a big deal that was to be able to wear</b><b>your music and walk around literally.</b><b>Yeah, that's kind of</b><b>Walkman, but that was huge.</b><b>And actually, um, people don't realize, well,</b><b>young kids don't, right?</b><b>They have air buds with, you know, Bluetooth.</b><b>We had those like headphones that were not big,</b><b>like, uh, like we're wearing.</b><b>They weren't these.</b><b>No, they were kind of</b><b>that in between fuzzy thing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then there were the ear and then there were</b><b>the small ones that were like, it was</b><b>just the metal strip and</b><b>then a small thing right here.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>No Walkmans.</b><b>That was like, that was it.</b><b>You'd put your, your tape in there.</b><b>When I was, uh, when I was in high school and</b><b>we'd go to away games, I remember I</b><b>would listen to, I had a Walkman with the</b><b>headphones we just described.</b><b>I'd listen to Bob Dylan blood on the tracks to</b><b>these games and back and forth.</b><b>I listened to that album.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>500 times.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>No, it gave us the ability to listen to music</b><b>outside of our home, outside of a car.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It, it allowed and choose your own music</b><b>instead of whatever was coming on the radio.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>It gave us autonomy when it came to our own.</b><b>Well, before that was boom boxes, right?</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Um, but then if you walked</b><b>around with it, it's loud.</b><b>Everyone can hear this.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>This was your private experience.</b><b>The Walkman gave you that</b><b>honestly was between that and MTV.</b><b>I was like entire records.</b><b>I was in heaven.</b><b>Um, did you, um, okay.</b><b>Did you remember there were</b><b>smoking sections everywhere we went?</b><b>There was smoking sections in McDonald's.</b><b>We actually had a</b><b>smoking section at our school.</b><b>Oh, for sure.</b><b>Where the smokers went.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But like any place, even if you went to</b><b>McDonald's, there were ashtrays and</b><b>there was smoking airplanes had smoking.</b><b>So airplanes.</b><b>I don't remember.</b><b>I guess they had.</b><b>They did.</b><b>Cause I remember I'd fly back and</b><b>forth between Oregon and Michigan.</b><b>It was the back.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Like that made the biggest difference is that,</b><b>okay, it's just in the back.</b><b>Um, every restaurant when the hostess would ask</b><b>you how many people, and then</b><b>the second question was smoking or non-smoking.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I forgot about that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>They were everywhere you went.</b><b>I think that's an improvement in the world.</b><b>Oh, for sure.</b><b>Obviously.</b><b>But at the time we were just used to that.</b><b>Like no matter where you'd go.</b><b>Smoking sections.</b><b>Not just used to it.</b><b>I remember driving and I think I've talked</b><b>about this in my relatives cars</b><b>who would smoke, we'd be in the back seat</b><b>without seat belts and a big sedan.</b><b>There's along the roads and they'd be up there</b><b>smoking and blowing it in the car.</b><b>That's my mom.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>My mom smoked Virginia Slims.</b><b>Um, okay.</b><b>So do you, did you bite your pencil?</b><b>Do you remember bite it?</b><b>Like, so we'd all have</b><b>the yellow pencils, right?</b><b>The number two pencils.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Do you remember biting your pencil?</b><b>I do, but not, not like a, like,</b><b>like just where it was all bit.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yes, but not really.</b><b>It's not a core memory.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>I used to bite all my, I love the way, like not</b><b>that it tasted, but just</b><b>that feeling of biting into the pencil.</b><b>And then do you remember?</b><b>It's funny you say that I remember the bite and</b><b>the how it broke through the</b><b>paint and then you'd get to that next layer.</b><b>Then you'd move on.</b><b>That kind of, yeah.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Crazy.</b><b>And I, and I can, I can,</b><b>I can like not taste it.</b><b>I can smell it.</b><b>Taste it.</b><b>Smell it.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So then did you, um, go to the pencil sharpener</b><b>just because you were bored</b><b>and want to get out of your seat?</b><b>But then that thing like would always be just a</b><b>little close enough to the wall</b><b>where you'd like get your knuckles.</b><b>You remember that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah, I do.</b><b>So you kind of would have to like hold it and</b><b>do it, but, and it would have that</b><b>sound, but it was, I remembered, yeah,</b><b>sometimes you'd be like this, but I</b><b>remember doing it and trying to make enough</b><b>noise to be disruptive to the</b><b>class to, to be that,</b><b>why does that not shock me?</b><b>Why does that not do you</b><b>were Dennis the menace?</b><b>There's no question about that.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>It's, so yeah.</b><b>Do you remember how we used to like, not you</b><b>and me, but how, um, we would</b><b>slow dance in high school.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>He holds your arms straight out.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It was either that or you were like, like</b><b>totally hugging and like,</b><b>like as close as you could be.</b><b>I don't think I ever did the closest.</b><b>No, no, maybe for like prom.</b><b>Cause by then I had a girl for that.</b><b>So I'm talking about middle school, but like</b><b>the, the back and forth,</b><b>just one step, one step.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But I loved middle school dances.</b><b>Like, so tears for fear, all the</b><b>eighties, like Madonna, Prince, um,</b><b>tears for fears, the pesh mode.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Like that was our Michael Jackson.</b><b>That was our music at our middle school dances.</b><b>And it was new.</b><b>We would dance like, I would never dance.</b><b>You didn't, did you go?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But I hindsight, I was too</b><b>immature to be there and embrace it.</b><b>Right.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Other kids were, I was probably</b><b>mocking them out of insecurity.</b><b>Realistically, but well, did boys dance that</b><b>you remember a handful?</b><b>Wait, well, when we were in fifth or sixth</b><b>grade, maybe a little earlier,</b><b>we had a breakdance club.</b><b>I remember breakdancing.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>We had a breakdance club.</b><b>I wasn't in it.</b><b>I couldn't do it again.</b><b>It was, that wasn't my thing, but there were</b><b>some guys who were breakdancing</b><b>and spinning and shit on their heads and stuff.</b><b>And I remember actually at Helen</b><b>Morgan school, we were in pods.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>They had a pod.</b><b>Here's your five classes for second grade.</b><b>And here's the pod over</b><b>here, you know, down the hall.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And I remember these guys, they had</b><b>breakdancing and, and like the whole,</b><b>it was like embraced kind of like, Hey,</b><b>so-and-so is going to</b><b>breakdance and everyone's watching.</b><b>Breakdancing was like a big</b><b>deal and they were parachute pants.</b><b>That's what got parachute.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I had parachute.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And like the windbreaker matching windbreaker.</b><b>Whatever.</b><b>So I never wore members only.</b><b>I had a member Sony jacket.</b><b>I think everybody did.</b><b>I don't know.</b><b>So we did OP ocean, and then of course polo.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>And okay.</b><b>So OP ocean Pacific guests.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>I remember guests overalls were.</b><b>I was never into guests, but</b><b>those more of a girls thing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then eyes odds.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Um, okay.</b><b>So the cologne was, um, that green polo.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I still, I still like.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>And then, and then your car.</b><b>I was never into that.</b><b>So your car was huge among the boys.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But no, to bring back to</b><b>breakdancing, I forgot that was like,</b><b>we were there in breakdancing appear.</b><b>Yeah. Yeah.</b><b>It's so cool.</b><b>Um, just going back to the fashion stuff.</b><b>I had a pink Ralph Lauren, uh, polo jacket.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Like eighth grade or something.</b><b>So I was all in on that.</b><b>Well, that was Miami vice, right?</b><b>Or had Miami vice shown up yet?</b><b>I don't know.</b><b>Well, no, a pink, that would have</b><b>been preppy, the preppy handbook.</b><b>When did Miami vice show up for us?</b><b>Like maybe ninth grade.</b><b>Yeah, maybe.</b><b>Cause then it was the white linen blazer</b><b>pushing your sleeves up.</b><b>Yeah. So you could see your forearms.</b><b>That was like a whole thing.</b><b>We had a friend whose dad</b><b>was an exec at ocean Pacific.</b><b>So he had all the OP stuff.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>And then everybody got into OP and Ralph Laura</b><b>and like polo was huge.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Members only jackets were huge.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Um, sarin Getty sunglasses.</b><b>I think they were right.</b><b>Do you remember?</b><b>No, we were Ray-Ban.</b><b>We were not Ray-Ban until</b><b>probably a little bit later.</b><b>We were so Ray-Ban.</b><b>They had those aviator ones.</b><b>Remember they had the glasses and they had like</b><b>the, like the little side things.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Maybe they were, oh, you know,</b><b>Carreras like for Porsche Carreras.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>That might've been more the guys probably, but</b><b>when risky business came out,</b><b>yeah, it was probably changed.</b><b>It was all about risky business.</b><b>It was all about, uh, Ray-Ban probably.</b><b>I don't remember.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I remember the black Ray-Bans.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Did you have swatch?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And you could change the faces or something.</b><b>I had a black swatch watch.</b><b>I bought at the Macy's counter for $35.</b><b>There you go.</b><b>I love my swatch watch.</b><b>And then, um, vans back then were checkered.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>So they were either, uh, you</b><b>could get red and white checkered,</b><b>which are the ones I had.</b><b>You could get pink and white.</b><b>I had pink and white.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>I went through this whole,</b><b>you went through a preppy phase.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then, um, you wore them with no socks.</b><b>Probably.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then you get black and white.</b><b>And I think you get blue and white checkered</b><b>too, but it was all checkered.</b><b>Like the way vans is now is not how it was.</b><b>Van is a shoe now.</b><b>It was, it has like actual like chill styles.</b><b>You can still get the checkered.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But it has, they have clothes.</b><b>That's a whole thing.</b><b>But when we bought vans back</b><b>then, they were like 30 or $35.</b><b>I bet the checkered ones are like 135.</b><b>Probably.</b><b>I feel like they were$25 or something.</b><b>Oh my gosh.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I love my van so much.</b><b>Um, okay.</b><b>So did you on your Christmas tree, did you have</b><b>either, um, like that tinsel decor</b><b>or was it like hand, was it the ones where you</b><b>would take a string of tinsel</b><b>and put on your Christmas tree or was it like</b><b>the rope type tinsel wrapping?</b><b>So for me, two memories would be, we had the</b><b>rope, the gold rope, and we'd do it</b><b>as a family, you know, work it around.</b><b>And then my aunt, Lorraine and</b><b>uncle Tommy had the stuff you put on.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah. And some families would throw kind of toss that</b><b>on, but then some families</b><b>would do one at a time.</b><b>Why?</b><b>I don't know.</b><b>Would you know that my grandma did it?</b><b>My grandma did one at a time.</b><b>And, um, I don't know.</b><b>I don't, I think she enjoyed it probably</b><b>because she had four kids and it was the</b><b>time she could be like, leave me alone.</b><b>I'm decorating the tree.</b><b>Did you grow up being afraid of Christmas trees</b><b>burning down your house?</b><b>Of course.</b><b>No, I thought that was a daily occurrence.</b><b>I thought every Christmas, like</b><b>half the people I knew their Christmas</b><b>tree was going to catch on fire.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Were you afraid of quicksand?</b><b>Because for some reason we were all supposed to</b><b>be afraid of quicksand.</b><b>I think I'm still afraid of quicksand, even</b><b>though I've never seen or been</b><b>around quicksand, but I picture it happening.</b><b>Everything we watched quicksand.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Something can happen.</b><b>You say that road runner and</b><b>wild coyote, Tom and Jerry.</b><b>Star Trek.</b><b>There's quicksand in one of the episodes.</b><b>Yeah, maybe.</b><b>Oh no.</b><b>There's quicksand in fantasy Island.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I'm sure chips had a quicksand episode where</b><b>they had to come save them.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>What about the sleaze stacks?</b><b>Uh, they're my favorites.</b><b>Yeah, totally.</b><b>Those things would freak me out.</b><b>Have you ever seen that meme where they showed</b><b>the free, the sleaze stack and</b><b>it's like when your mushrooms just hit?</b><b>No.</b><b>No, it's hilarious.</b><b>And then was that the only dinosaur that wasn't</b><b>a dinosaur land of the loss.</b><b>Was it dinosaurs?</b><b>Yeah, but we've talked about that other one.</b><b>You remember this or that</b><b>I can't even describe it.</b><b>It's like a, this round thing with like, like</b><b>shaggy that was like living in a</b><b>house and they live by a beach.</b><b>That'll come to you.</b><b>I can't remember the name of the movie, but, or</b><b>the show, it was like a show.</b><b>And it was like this.</b><b>I don't even, I can't even picture that now.</b><b>We've talked about it, but.</b><b>Gosh, I can't even picture that.</b><b>You know, what's the trip is for us.</b><b>Like Disney movies weren't a thing.</b><b>Those really started, I</b><b>mean, they were like Pinocchio.</b><b>Remember?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But Disney on Sunday nights with Herbie, the</b><b>love bug and the Waltons.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Right.</b><b>Herbie, the love.</b><b>I loved her be the love.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>All those movies.</b><b>What about, um, the pink Panther?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Love the pink Panther.</b><b>The cartoon.</b><b>I wasn't really into the guy.</b><b>The live action detective.</b><b>No, it was weird.</b><b>You remember, uh, um, two, uh, uh, Mr.</b><b>Magoo.</b><b>I didn't watch that.</b><b>Oh, you don't watch that.</b><b>No.</b><b>What about the gorilla in the window?</b><b>How much is that monkey in the</b><b>window or the McGillic gorilla?</b><b>It sounds familiar.</b><b>That was that when we were</b><b>young, like kindergarten.</b><b>I don't know.</b><b>It all blends, man.</b><b>It's I know, but I think that was</b><b>when we were younger, but I forgot</b><b>about her be the love bug.</b><b>Remember the Waltons.</b><b>They'd be like, good night, Mark.</b><b>And I can I can I, I didn't watch that as much</b><b>as little house on the prairie.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>I love little house on the prairie.</b><b>I've seen every little</b><b>house in the prairie episode.</b><b>I watch that.</b><b>I read all the books.</b><b>I was obsessed with that family.</b><b>I didn't read the books, but I, we used to</b><b>watch it was like Sunday nights.</b><b>Right.</b><b>Wasn't that kind of like</b><b>little house on the prairie?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Herbie and Waltons.</b><b>I think I went to bed when</b><b>Waltons, but, um, Oh, the other one,</b><b>Grizzly Adams, loved Grizzly Adams.</b><b>I love that show.</b><b>I loved Grizzly Adams.</b><b>That was a great, there's another</b><b>one actually, um, mutual of Omaha.</b><b>That was like the wild kingdom.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Well, the animals.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That was cool.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But, um, Hey, Grizzly Adams, Grizzly Adams,</b><b>Grizzly Adams was cool.</b><b>I was trying to think there</b><b>was something else you said.</b><b>It'll come back to me.</b><b>Um, okay.</b><b>What else?</b><b>I wonder if we covered like</b><b>everything that I wrote down.</b><b>I'm reading it real quick.</b><b>Uh, Saturday morning cards.</b><b>Oh, did you ever do Columbia house where you</b><b>could buy like a bunch of tapes?</b><b>I think I did it as an adult too.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I think we changed our name or something.</b><b>I think I remember doing, I think in high</b><b>school or something, I got like,</b><b>what would you get like not a hundred tapes?</b><b>No, it wasn't a hundred.</b><b>Well, it was a lot for a penny.</b><b>You know what I did actually.</b><b>Um, it was something like that.</b><b>It might've been Columbia house, but I got this</b><b>whole blues collection.</b><b>I've got like the Robert Johnson and the</b><b>howling wolf and all these</b><b>incredible blues artists.</b><b>I have a one from that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Something like that.</b><b>Oh my God.</b><b>That's so funny.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Did you ever have a radio, a</b><b>stereo in your car that you pulled out?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>A hundred percent.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I saw in my first car, my first</b><b>car was a 1965 Apple red Mustang.</b><b>I had no business receiving that car.</b><b>Um, it was the most gloriously beautiful car I</b><b>could ever have wanted.</b><b>It was my dream car, but I was 16</b><b>years old and I crashed it twice.</b><b>I had no business driving that car.</b><b>But it was fast, but I</b><b>had a Kenmore pullout in it.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And would Kenwood Kenwood.</b><b>What did I say?</b><b>Kenmore Kenwood.</b><b>And so when I would go to like, I</b><b>was in high school, if I went to</b><b>dinner, like my friends or my boyfriend, I</b><b>would bring it into the restaurant</b><b>or I'd put it in my bag.</b><b>Oh, you had the room removable plate.</b><b>No, I pulled the whole thing out.</b><b>Interesting.</b><b>No, I had the whole thing</b><b>and I would put it in my bag.</b><b>Interesting.</b><b>And then when I get in my</b><b>Mustang, I put it back in.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I would take it with me.</b><b>That's weird.</b><b>Why?</b><b>So no one would steal it.</b><b>It was a removable thing.</b><b>Like when we were younger, people would break</b><b>into cars and steal shit.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Um, I had a 76 Chevy Monza and</b><b>I don't even know what that is.</b><b>Stock, the stock car came with</b><b>an eight cylinder motor, right?</b><b>Okay.</b><b>And mine had a four cylinder.</b><b>That's like a V8, right?</b><b>It was a V8.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So instead of city, if it had the, the V8, it</b><b>would have sat flat, right?</b><b>Aerodynamically designed.</b><b>Mine had a four cylinder.</b><b>So it faced up a little bit, totally dangerous,</b><b>changed the dynamics of how</b><b>you steer, but I had a, I paid $250 for it.</b><b>My parents did.</b><b>And my stereo, I had a whole</b><b>pioneer system and I put it in myself.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Brand the cables did.</b><b>I had speakers in the doors,</b><b>six inch speakers in the doors.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Then six by nine speakers in the back.</b><b>Wow.</b><b>So we, yeah, that was the whole thing.</b><b>And that doesn't sound like a very big car.</b><b>No, it was so loud.</b><b>It was, it was amazing.</b><b>It was just crazy.</b><b>It was awesome.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That's a Mons, I get it.</b><b>I don't know what that is, but that sounds like</b><b>it was a good time when she got in there.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So did you ever, I don't know, you probably</b><b>never went through this, but, and I</b><b>don't know if this is just because of my</b><b>upbringing or whatever, or if it's a</b><b>girl thing, but did you</b><b>ever, I'm threatened to run away.</b><b>Not that I recall, but not that I recall.</b><b>So I would say I'm going to run away like a</b><b>decent, but I think there's kids who had</b><b>a normal upbringing and also did this.</b><b>If they had like, we're upset with something.</b><b>Our daughter.</b><b>Well, yeah, that's true.</b><b>She did it when she was like three.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Um, I, but one time I did, I</b><b>grabbed my white teddy bear.</b><b>I love that teddy bear.</b><b>I think I still have it in</b><b>our storage unit somewhere.</b><b>I'd grabbed my white teddy bear and like a doll</b><b>and we were at my mom's friend's</b><b>house and I left and so it wasn't even my</b><b>neighborhood and I think I made it and I</b><b>would have been kindergarten or first grade.</b><b>I think I walked for five minutes and which is</b><b>a long time, long time to walk</b><b>for five minutes as a little kid.</b><b>And then I remember that</b><b>feeling of, okay, I'm like far.</b><b>And no one came after you.</b><b>Well, no.</b><b>So right as I felt like I'm far, which was</b><b>probably like three blocks, I turn</b><b>around and my mom's running towards me.</b><b>So yeah, like I, she, yeah, ran and got me, but</b><b>that was a thing is like, I'm</b><b>done, I'm going to run away.</b><b>But actually that time I tried it and then you</b><b>get that, that feeling like, did</b><b>you ever lose your, your mom in a store?</b><b>Um, I remember like hiding under, like being</b><b>at, I think it was at Macy's and</b><b>hiding in like the clothes.</b><b>Oh, so you traumatized your mom.</b><b>I feel like I did, but I thought it was funny</b><b>because I was hiding in</b><b>like the rack of clothes, right?</b><b>Of course.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Brian, Brian, Brian.</b><b>And I think they, I feel like</b><b>the store manager got involved.</b><b>Nice.</b><b>I don't remember if this happened</b><b>or not or if I'm imagining it, but</b><b>I really think it happened.</b><b>I feel like your mom has</b><b>mentioned something about this.</b><b>I wish she would come on cause</b><b>I, she'd have some good stories.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Oh, yeah.</b><b>She probably has the tea.</b><b>Yeah, she does.</b><b>I remember she told a story about you didn't</b><b>want to go to dinner and you guys</b><b>battled about that and she threatened to break</b><b>your fish tank with an ax if you</b><b>didn't go to dinner and another</b><b>time she cut up your pants because you</b><b>wouldn't go to dinner.</b><b>This should have been red flags</b><b>for me that you don't go to dinner.</b><b>You know, what's funny is one time she.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Very true.</b><b>She used to cut my hair at</b><b>times or like dude, like a trimming.</b><b>And I remember once she nicked my ear and your</b><b>ear bleeds pretty good, right?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And I remember seeing it and then</b><b>I pretended to really be in pain.</b><b>I started crying.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That wasn't cool.</b><b>You tormented.</b><b>No.</b><b>So I wonder like I was, I was the type of Gen X</b><b>kid and it could have been because</b><b>my parents are divorced</b><b>remarried to other people that a lot.</b><b>I came from cast.</b><b>That's a totally different episode.</b><b>If anyone's interested in that, go listen to</b><b>probably episode 13 and you'll hear</b><b>my story, but, um, so I was, I was like pretty</b><b>compliant and I just, I wanted</b><b>friends and, um, so I was,</b><b>I, and I followed the rules.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I think you were the opposite of that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>A hundred percent.</b><b>I was an asshole at times for sure.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But you could get away with more back then kids</b><b>could get away with more back then.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I mean, it's almost like when you ask if, you</b><b>know, did I ever run away?</b><b>I can't, it's like that didn't, I don't think</b><b>that entered my mind ever.</b><b>I don't even know any friends that did.</b><b>And I feel like I know of some people that</b><b>didn't and we're like, why?</b><b>Huh?</b><b>What, what is this?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You know?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So you guys were just very stable, very fine.</b><b>And you were more running the show.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I feel like I ran the show kind of, you know,</b><b>and I had a great, I ran the</b><b>show in many ways, not a hundred percent, you</b><b>know, but, but relatively</b><b>compared to what you're saying, you know, I had</b><b>a lot of control or autonomy.</b><b>Uh, but also had a good,</b><b>you know, decent thing going.</b><b>So do you think there's things you did though,</b><b>as a quote unquote bully, then</b><b>that now kids couldn't do or get away with or</b><b>somebody's parent would</b><b>probably call the school over.</b><b>Yeah, probably.</b><b>What were some of the things you did?</b><b>I don't want to sell myself out, but I will say</b><b>this, like, you know, I was</b><b>thinking about this because, you know, you'd</b><b>planted the seed, but we used to</b><b>snow throw snowballs at cars.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Um, you know, as when it snowed, it was like,</b><b>cool, but wait till it actually</b><b>we didn't wait till it got dark.</b><b>Uh, we used to throw eggs at cars.</b><b>Mm-hmm.</b><b>Um, that was always fun.</b><b>We would do ding dong ditching.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>And that was fun too.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I'm glad kids still do that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You know, mischief night,</b><b>we would TP houses, trees.</b><b>So we TP, like when we would have a sleepover.</b><b>I like a girl's house.</b><b>We would sneak out like the girl.</b><b>We would, all of us girls would</b><b>sneak out with a bunch of toilet</b><b>paper and we would TP houses.</b><b>That was the thing.</b><b>I don't know.</b><b>What is it?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We used to take soap and put it on windows of</b><b>cars and, you know, right.</b><b>Things are just like really cover like the</b><b>front window and shit like that.</b><b>You never did that.</b><b>Oh, that was never did that.</b><b>I don't think I ever threw.</b><b>I never threw eggs at cars.</b><b>I did throw eggs at houses once.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We did that too.</b><b>We were TPing and I was like, Oh my God.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Now did you put rocks in your</b><b>snowballs that you threw at cars?</b><b>No.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So you didn't go that far.</b><b>No, we didn't go that far.</b><b>Did you ever steal stuff?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Like from like a, like a seven 11.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Seven 11 or like the ACME or whatever.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Not from people.</b><b>Candy.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Candy.</b><b>A Jolly Ranchers.</b><b>I would steal those a hundred percent.</b><b>So that was all profit.</b><b>A hundred percent profit.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah. Yeah.</b><b>So how would you steal?</b><b>Where would you put it?</b><b>All right.</b><b>So we had that I had this, well, you could</b><b>just, I had this eyes odd jacket</b><b>that had hand pockets like this, right?</b><b>You put your hands, like a kind</b><b>of put your hands through here.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And you could kind of do that.</b><b>Like hoodies are.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Like a hoodie, a hoodie.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Great example.</b><b>I remember there was a hole in the pocket.</b><b>So once the whole created, I</b><b>was like, rip it a little more.</b><b>You could shove a whole bag in</b><b>there and just wrap it around.</b><b>Oh my gosh.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Were you the only one that did that?</b><b>Or were you doing it?</b><b>Did they ever catch on that</b><b>we're missing stuff every time</b><b>this group of kids comes in?</b><b>Well, it wasn't like a group thing.</b><b>You do like one friend.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It's not like you go and</b><b>just clear out the place.</b><b>You know, you gotta be,</b><b>well, people do that now.</b><b>No, that's what I'm saying.</b><b>This is very, covert shit</b><b>in your pants the whole time.</b><b>And you don't think you're good</b><b>till you can't see the store anymore.</b><b>How many times did you do that?</b><b>I don't know enough to remember it.</b><b>Did you sneak into movies?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Without buying a ticket.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Well, but like, uh, who was,</b><b>who was telling us Lou, right?</b><b>Yes.</b><b>In one of our previous podcast.</b><b>People, I had a friend who worked that.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And they'd like, they'd let you in.</b><b>You'd go knock on the</b><b>door and they'd let you in.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Would you prank call?</b><b>Oh, absolutely.</b><b>So what were some of the, do you</b><b>remember any of the prank calls?</b><b>Things you'd say?</b><b>No, we would prank call, but, and when we first</b><b>did it, it was like your fridge</b><b>refrigerators running, you</b><b>better go get it or something.</b><b>It was like dumb jokes like that.</b><b>But then it just was like breathing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Or, um, saying like, just, I don't know what it</b><b>was, but we would prank call a lot.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>A hundred percent.</b><b>Because there was no caller ID.</b><b>It was all landlines.</b><b>And no one knew.</b><b>Well, there was a way to where you could block</b><b>your line because caller ID came</b><b>out, but there was a way you could punch a code</b><b>in and not show your number.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That's later.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And when we were middle</b><b>school, there was not a caller ID.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That was more high school.</b><b>Like, um, uh, what do you call it?</b><b>A phone where he can record</b><b>a thing like leave a message.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The voice machine melt.</b><b>What's it called?</b><b>Uh, the, the answering machine.</b><b>Answering machine and answering machine.</b><b>So I remember when answering machines showed up</b><b>and I think that was like</b><b>high school with the landline.</b><b>And I remember it was a big deal.</b><b>So like the message, like sometimes as, as I</b><b>get, we got more comfortable.</b><b>We play music and like</b><b>say, Hey, leave us a message.</b><b>Like it would be like a whole production.</b><b>It would be a production.</b><b>I don't recall that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That sounds like you and your mom.</b><b>The for the answering machine.</b><b>Or I could just do it.</b><b>Like she would let me take</b><b>over and it'd be like, you</b><b>reached that, but I would</b><b>have like bells and whistles.</b><b>There was like a director's cut.</b><b>It was a whole thing.</b><b>I had fun with that with the</b><b>answering machines and then it switched</b><b>to voicemail on cell phones, but the answer</b><b>machines were cool because</b><b>you'd come home and it'd be blinking.</b><b>It's blinking.</b><b>And you're like, we got messages.</b><b>We actually had one too.</b><b>That told you the number of messages you have.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>You have nine messages or something like that.</b><b>And then you listen to it.</b><b>And do you remember when it first,</b><b>the more the same person who just</b><b>screwed up leaving the first message.</b><b>Like, what?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Do you remember when they</b><b>first came out, it was on a tape.</b><b>It was like a little, a little micro cassette.</b><b>And so there were times like, if your tape got</b><b>messed up, you lost your messages.</b><b>Like that was the whole thing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Do you remember, um, like having to share the</b><b>landline with your family?</b><b>Oh, yeah.</b><b>So you'd get like, did you and your sister ever</b><b>have to battle over phone time?</b><b>My sister actually got her own number when she</b><b>was in like, like ninth grade or</b><b>something.</b><b>I remember kids who would have that.</b><b>And I was like, wow, you got your own number.</b><b>I remember I had my own phone in my room in</b><b>high school, but I did not have my own</b><b>number, but I had my own phone.</b><b>It wasn't just sharing the line.</b><b>It was making sure no one picked up the line</b><b>while you were talking.</b><b>And listen, listen, you're talking to your</b><b>girlfriend or your boyfriend.</b><b>No, that was the whole thing.</b><b>A hundred percent.</b><b>But I remember when I finally got a phone in my</b><b>room, I didn't have to sit out in</b><b>like the living room and be on</b><b>the phone or like, I'd take it.</b><b>You, the whole cord could,</b><b>I could go in the garage.</b><b>So I'd pull it into the garage and I'd be on</b><b>the phone in the garage.</b><b>So that was the whole thing.</b><b>Do you remember always thinking</b><b>there's going to be a nuclear war?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We grew up in that.</b><b>Remember that movie Red Dawn?</b><b>Red Dawn.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I mean, we grew up in the cold, cold, cold war.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But we literally, we would do drills and we'd</b><b>have to go under the desk.</b><b>Did you ever do that?</b><b>I don't remember that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We would do that.</b><b>Like if we were going to get bombed by a</b><b>nuclear bomb going under the desk is</b><b>what's going to save us.</b><b>That's what we thought.</b><b>You know, it's interesting.</b><b>So I was up in Birmingham a few years ago with</b><b>Nathan and Ben, and I actually</b><b>took a picture cause there was a sign on a</b><b>brick building of saying like nuclear</b><b>shelter.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You don't see that too often.</b><b>No, no.</b><b>And it was like nuclear shelter and it's like</b><b>pointing down here, going to the</b><b>basement.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>No.</b><b>And I remember there were like,</b><b>there was a movie called Red Dawn.</b><b>No, that one.</b><b>But then there was a TV movie</b><b>called like the end or something.</b><b>Like propaganda for sure.</b><b>But no, but it was like</b><b>a Hollywood movie, right?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But it was about the end of</b><b>the nuclear war happening.</b><b>I remember that.</b><b>I wish I could remember the name of that movie,</b><b>but Red Dawn, Red Dawn is such a</b><b>Gen X movie.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So, so there's a group of movies, Red Dawn.</b><b>Um, the outsiders.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That's a great movie.</b><b>Breakfast club.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>16 candles.</b><b>Tex.</b><b>What?</b><b>Tex.</b><b>I don't remember that.</b><b>That's with Matt Dillon.</b><b>So the woman that wrote</b><b>outsiders, I see hidden.</b><b>She wrote Tex.</b><b>She wrote that was then this</b><b>is now they made movies on that.</b><b>So that was like a whole, whole genre.</b><b>So you didn't the outside.</b><b>Did you read the outsiders?</b><b>I actually read part of the outsiders.</b><b>I'm not a big book guys, you know, but I've</b><b>seen, I've seen the movie at least,</b><b>you know, a bunch of times.</b><b>I love it.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then, um, pretty in pink.</b><b>Did you ever see pretty in pink?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But it doesn't really resonate.</b><b>So that there was that whole John Hughes genre.</b><b>And then, um, because that's breakfast club,</b><b>those are more girl movies.</b><b>Probably.</b><b>I remember like St.</b><b>Elmo's fire, St.</b><b>Elmo's fire.</b><b>That's all that's in the same.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Um, say anything.</b><b>That's where he holds the boom box up.</b><b>John Kuzak outside her window.</b><b>That's iconic.</b><b>So that's what me, all those women think</b><b>that's, you know, we should have expected</b><b>that we didn't, but that's what we should have</b><b>held held to is hold the</b><b>boom box at our window.</b><b>I would say I was more of</b><b>like an animal house guy.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Uh, the wall love the wall.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But I'm talking.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I guess.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>The wall.</b><b>That's a whole thing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But yeah, usually you're like,</b><b>and the blues brothers.</b><b>I love the blues brothers.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Revenge of the nerds, that whole, and that's</b><b>one of those series where, uh,</b><b>they did like 20 of them.</b><b>But in the first several were pretty good.</b><b>I think it was just two, but okay.</b><b>Police Academy.</b><b>I was just about to say that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That had a bunch.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Rocky.</b><b>Rocky.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>I personally think I love Rocky and Rocky too,</b><b>but my Rocky is Rocky three.</b><b>Funny.</b><b>You say that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Mr.</b><b>T.</b><b>I think it's because that was like, we were</b><b>that a little bit old enough to really</b><b>appreciate it.</b><b>Which Rocky did they fight the Russians in?</b><b>Rocky four.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So I saw Rocky four in a movie theater in West</b><b>Virginia, more content.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And you know, the whole place is going crazy.</b><b>Go get them.</b><b>Rock.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The whole place.</b><b>The place is screaming.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>It was amazing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It was good.</b><b>No, that was, and then, um, Terminator.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The whole series.</b><b>That's our, that's our time that that's Gen X</b><b>this time is terminator.</b><b>What's the other one?</b><b>First blood first blood.</b><b>Right.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That's the lone Rambo Rambo Rambo.</b><b>Like all of that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So you really think about like the first movies</b><b>I mentioned the outsiders in that</b><b>genre and, and John Hughes and that genre and</b><b>then Rocky and series and the Rambo</b><b>series and keep well, before you wrap it up.</b><b>So Friday the 13th, Halloween.</b><b>So we, we had Halloween, like we were there</b><b>when all this stuff came original.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>These were not remakes.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>These were newly created</b><b>movies, screenplays, everything.</b><b>So yes.</b><b>Um, we had Friday the 13th.</b><b>We had Halloween and we</b><b>had nightmare on Elm street.</b><b>Those were like our big and it just jaws.</b><b>We were the generation.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I'm just kidding.</b><b>We were the generation of jaws.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We were the generation of</b><b>get the shit scared out of you.</b><b>If you turned on the wrong channel.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>True.</b><b>Really?</b><b>So true.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That is so true.</b><b>Did you ever see piranha?</b><b>Hell yeah.</b><b>Like I saw it in a drive-through.</b><b>So my mom and my stepdad were watching the</b><b>movie in front of them.</b><b>They brought me with them to watch that movie.</b><b>I turned around and watched piranha.</b><b>I think I was six.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And I was horrified.</b><b>My best friend had a red</b><b>belly piranhas as pets.</b><b>Oh my gosh.</b><b>Awesome.</b><b>We'd go to the mall.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I goldfish.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Come back and feed them.</b><b>Oh my gosh.</b><b>You know, they go crazy like the movie.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Crazy.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>No, it is.</b><b>I remember thinking like I'm going to have a</b><b>time in my life along with the</b><b>quicksand I will encounter piranha.</b><b>You know, now that we live in Florida.</b><b>Piranhas survive here.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And we don't have a piranha population that I'm</b><b>aware of, but they survived on.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Oh, do you remember there was like a TV movie</b><b>about ants that killed, like they</b><b>swarmed people and killed them?</b><b>Does that sound familiar?</b><b>I don't know.</b><b>I just remember there's a scene in the movie</b><b>where a little boy falls in a</b><b>dumpster and the ants get him and kill him.</b><b>I was watching that.</b><b>I think I was six, seven.</b><b>So ants, then that was a</b><b>whole thing to add to my list.</b><b>Remember like a revenge of the body snatchers.</b><b>I didn't see that one when I watched it later.</b><b>I think that came out and it was 3d.</b><b>I think that's what they did.</b><b>It was a 3d movie and I think it</b><b>was revenge of the body snare and</b><b>something of the body.</b><b>Close encounters of the third kind.</b><b>That was alien.</b><b>Oh my God.</b><b>Do you remember ET?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The phenomenon of ET.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Oh my God.</b><b>Like you can't duplicate that.</b><b>You cannot culturally duplicate</b><b>the phenomenon of ET Raiders of the</b><b>Lost Ark, that whole thing.</b><b>I wasn't told the end of that.</b><b>Really?</b><b>Not really.</b><b>There was Star Wars.</b><b>Star Wars.</b><b>Like we're the generation of Star Wars.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Think about that.</b><b>And, and Raiders of the Lost Ark.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>All of that.</b><b>So you look at everything we just talked about</b><b>all those movies and you compare it</b><b>to what is being offered in theaters for the</b><b>last 10, 15 years, 20 years.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It's like a joke.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It's a joke.</b><b>Like there's nothing that it's so few that</b><b>something comes out that's of such</b><b>quality and originality as what we got in the</b><b>seventies and eighties and nineties.</b><b>I would say those three decades really put out</b><b>some of the most iconic movies and it</b><b>made it worth, it made it worth spending the</b><b>money to go see a movie.</b><b>Of course it wasn't as expensive as it is now,</b><b>but it made it worth it where there's</b><b>really nothing at this point</b><b>where I'm like, yeah, that's worth it.</b><b>You know, it'd have to be something big.</b><b>I can't even think of, I</b><b>don't watch movies anymore.</b><b>There's no entertainment value to me.</b><b>No, but it was that just, and I don't even</b><b>think our kids really like we were,</b><b>it's they're not like a movie generation.</b><b>No.</b><b>Like how we were.</b><b>I don't think I could be wrong.</b><b>I don't know if the millennials feel this way.</b><b>I don't know if Gen Z is</b><b>like a movie generation.</b><b>Like it was such a part of our culture.</b><b>Everything it feels like, and I'm semi ignorant</b><b>on this, but it feels like there's</b><b>some message or some political bend or some,</b><b>it's not just some creative</b><b>imagine that thing, like it has an agenda.</b><b>It's got an agenda.</b><b>It feels like, yeah, I don't know, but even,</b><b>and like I said, there were, we</b><b>didn't really have Disney movies.</b><b>We did.</b><b>They were the older ones, like the Pinocchios,</b><b>the Cinderella's and all that.</b><b>But that whole phenomenon of like the real big,</b><b>like beauty and the beast and</b><b>Lion King, that was more</b><b>when we were in college.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And that's when Disney really ratcheted it up.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Um, remember like Arthur?</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Remember that show?</b><b>That was such a good movie.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>There's so many, you really, nine to five, nine</b><b>to five was a great movie.</b><b>Nine to five.</b><b>That was with Dolly Parton.</b><b>Oh, Dolly Parton.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And that's when women</b><b>were entering the workforce.</b><b>It's, it was such a good, such a good movie.</b><b>Is it Willy Wonka?</b><b>Well, yeah, there was Willy</b><b>Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.</b><b>They've remade that a few times.</b><b>Like Johnny Depp was one.</b><b>And then, um, I'm just trying to think back to</b><b>like the Richard Pryor movies.</b><b>Oh, and even stand up comedians, right?</b><b>Stand up comedians.</b><b>That was great.</b><b>Completely.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I don't know what the right term is politically</b><b>correct, right term is, but</b><b>the shit they would say was just wrong.</b><b>There is raw.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So we had, um, we had Richard Pryor, we had</b><b>Eddie Murphy, like all in their prime.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Um, to me, like Chris Rock's kind of close.</b><b>He's, he's done pretty well.</b><b>Right.</b><b>What about George Carlin though?</b><b>Oh, I mean, that man was brilliant.</b><b>Amazing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Oh, you just made me think what about like, um,</b><b>Private Benjamin with Goldie</b><b>Han and, um, and she made a couple of movies</b><b>with Chevy Chase that I loved.</b><b>Like they were like a little duo for a while.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Caddyshack.</b><b>Hello.</b><b>Totally.</b><b>And meatballs.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Caddyshack and meatballs.</b><b>And then did you ever see little darlings?</b><b>What's what is that?</b><b>That was with Christie McNichol.</b><b>That was like kind of racy a little bit.</b><b>I think so.</b><b>I had a crush on her as a kid.</b><b>It's totally inappropriate.</b><b>Like, well, of course, if you look back now,</b><b>but, um, blazing saddles.</b><b>Just before I forget.</b><b>Saddles.</b><b>And then what about all the Mel Brooks movies?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>There's a great, the</b><b>history of the world part one.</b><b>Those are great.</b><b>So inappropriate.</b><b>I remember being like five.</b><b>I don't even know whatever it was.</b><b>So funny.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The world.</b><b>What's his name?</b><b>The weirdo.</b><b>Uh, was it not?</b><b>Robin Williams.</b><b>No, no, no.</b><b>He's not weird though.</b><b>The real word.</b><b>What do you know?</b><b>Uh, something that the guy who'd married like a</b><b>15 year old or something.</b><b>And the guy in New York, um, Oh, Woody Allen.</b><b>I was never a big Woody Allen fan.</b><b>I was never, uh, like I was</b><b>never really big into his movies.</b><b>I think, I don't know.</b><b>He did well, but yeah, no, he, there's</b><b>definitely a huge following, but</b><b>I was never really, but he</b><b>just think about all that.</b><b>I don't know.</b><b>I, and this could be just the Gen X or in me</b><b>talking like you guys don't know what</b><b>what, like how it was, but it was just so much,</b><b>it was so quality and I, I don't see</b><b>it now, but again, I don't know.</b><b>Think they're like, are we just being nostalgic</b><b>and thinking that something</b><b>was cool and it really wasn't.</b><b>And I mean, it's cool cause we think it's cool,</b><b>but is that just not happening today?</b><b>Well, I think, I think what I</b><b>see is a lot of remaking of that.</b><b>So I, I, I see a lot of attempting to remake</b><b>stuff from the seventies, eighties,</b><b>nineties, and like the star Wars thing, they</b><b>just keep continuing, continuing,</b><b>continuing, but, um, I don't know.</b><b>I haven't seen anything like super original.</b><b>Even Titanic was amazing and Schindler's list.</b><b>Those are like nineties movies.</b><b>Shawshank redemption.</b><b>Um, so anyways, but just we, we were a</b><b>generation of a movie culture.</b><b>Cause even reality bites, which is such a</b><b>phenomenal gen X movie.</b><b>We, we just, that was part of our culture.</b><b>I don't know if it's as</b><b>ingrained in the Gen Z culture.</b><b>I don't know.</b><b>I really don't.</b><b>I know our kids will sometimes go see a movie</b><b>rarely, although I will say,</b><b>um, our older son was there</b><b>for all a Harry Potter and love.</b><b>And then our both, our kids love</b><b>Harry, the Harry Potter movies.</b><b>And, um, they are older to love the Lord of the</b><b>rings, especially our older son</b><b>loves the Lord of the rings.</b><b>Those are quality original movies.</b><b>But again, those were made in the early 2000s.</b><b>So I don't know.</b><b>That's why I say I feel like in the last,</b><b>especially 10 years, I'm not sure.</b><b>Cause even the American pie movies were good.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Those are, those are good movies and those are</b><b>like what late to early 2000s.</b><b>So something I feel the first one was, I</b><b>thought the second third, what was the</b><b>other one we like with, uh, a dude in Texas,</b><b>uh, the 1976 schools out for summer.</b><b>Oh, days and confused.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That's a classic.</b><b>Yeah, of course.</b><b>And then you have Talladega nights.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You know, like Ron Burgundy, acre man.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So, but again, that was over 20 years ago.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So I don't know.</b><b>I don't, I don't know.</b><b>I know.</b><b>I know.</b><b>But we had some good movies, but red done that</b><b>brings us back to red on red done.</b><b>I can say for myself, well, after I watched</b><b>that movie, I 100% believe that that is</b><b>going to happen and that I will experience it.</b><b>I thought that was part of</b><b>our culture as a nuclear war.</b><b>It was a reality that we lived really until</b><b>what the Berlin wall came down.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then we thought, Oh, okay.</b><b>We're not going to get bombed.</b><b>So our son was at the UFC fights</b><b>in Miami and he saw the president.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>When I was in college, I think it</b><b>was maybe sophomore junior year.</b><b>I went and visited my friend in grand rapids</b><b>and I went to a Berlin wall.</b><b>Uh, what's the right word ceremony.</b><b>It was, they were giving the bur</b><b>a piece of the Berlin wall to the</b><b>local, uh, place there in grand rapids.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Gerald Ford was the president.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Right.</b><b>He was a president.</b><b>He was, he did the whole thing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It was pretty cool.</b><b>No, that's cool.</b><b>It was cool in toothbrunts.</b><b>We got, I got to see Gerald Ford probably 30</b><b>feet away at most and a piece</b><b>of the Berlin wall got knocked</b><b>down, which was very nostalgic for us.</b><b>Cause they showed videos of people tearing it</b><b>down and you know, it was.</b><b>It was interesting.</b><b>No, it's, it's a, it's a historical thing.</b><b>No.</b><b>Do you remember, um, were you, I don't know if</b><b>it reached you because in Portland,</b><b>this was big, but like the punk rock scene,</b><b>like the sex pistols, like that city.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So I remember I'd wear it.</b><b>We'd have like in downtown Portland, like</b><b>storage, you could go to,</b><b>and it was all like punk stuff, but I would</b><b>wear like the high tops and he'd</b><b>like cover them with color and was Sharpie and</b><b>stuff like it was a whole thing.</b><b>I didn't do that.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We went through that for a little bit.</b><b>What grade?</b><b>What age?</b><b>It was like maybe sophomore year.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I was by then I was more into the dead.</b><b>See, I didn't get dead.</b><b>I didn't get that until end of sophomore year.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So this sort of a, maybe this is maybe like</b><b>ninth grade into sophomore year,</b><b>but the sex pistols and that whole punk rock</b><b>scene, that was all really big.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So I wouldn't have been familiar with any of</b><b>the sports at the time.</b><b>Like, I mean, I knew the Harlem Globetrotters.</b><b>Remember when we were growing up, the Harlem</b><b>Globetrotters were a big deal.</b><b>They were a huge deal.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Um, and then I feel like the Dallas cowboy</b><b>cheerleaders were a big deal for a while.</b><b>That was like a whole phenomenon, right?</b><b>Yep.</b><b>But I don't remember anything else with sports.</b><b>Like what would have been the teams?</b><b>For me, it was the Yankees.</b><b>I remember becoming a Yankee fan in 1977.</b><b>So I was six years old,</b><b>become a lifelong Yankee fan.</b><b>Um, the Raiders were good back then.</b><b>The Steelers were good.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You know, the Dodgers first</b><b>Yankees was a big rivalry.</b><b>Um, what about, um, boys were the hated team.</b><b>You know, we had.</b><b>Oh, were they?</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>Everyone hated the Cowboys.</b><b>What about, um, uh, the refrigerator?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Uh, William, the refrigerator</b><b>Perry played for the, the bears.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The bears number 72.</b><b>And then back then it was Jim McMahon.</b><b>He had the glasses and</b><b>everyone would give him shit.</b><b>And he's like, I have an eye condition.</b><b>I need them.</b><b>Whether it's true or I assume it is, but they</b><b>did the Super Bowl shuffle.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>I'm with the bears.</b><b>I remember that.</b><b>I remember that.</b><b>And then, um, I remember the</b><b>bears member on Saturday Night Live.</b><b>DeBares.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So I remember that, but I was probably more</b><b>like when we were in college.</b><b>So another thing, what was really cool for us,</b><b>I remember being a young kid and</b><b>being at like watching Mike Tyson fights on</b><b>like Saturday afternoons when he was</b><b>coming up and he was a kid and he was knocking</b><b>the shit out of people.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Come out and it's like, all</b><b>right, you gotta watch Mike.</b><b>And he would knock out men in seconds.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And he was so much fun to watch.</b><b>It was awesome.</b><b>I knew nothing about that.</b><b>Oh, it was amazing.</b><b>I remember watching that as a kid.</b><b>The other thing too, as a kid</b><b>was magic verse bird, right?</b><b>I remember that.</b><b>Right.</b><b>That was always that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then I remember Michael Jordan coming out.</b><b>Jordan came along.</b><b>I remember watching Jordan as a kid and Jordan</b><b>put up like 65 points and they</b><b>still lost and he was their team.</b><b>And then eventually they</b><b>built a cast around him.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>And they, you know, I remember that.</b><b>I remember that.</b><b>But, um, I can't, I don't</b><b>remember like the Superbowl.</b><b>Was it a big thing?</b><b>Probably because I am a dad at the house.</b><b>Like, uh, she's the 49ers, Joe Montero.</b><b>Yeah. Yeah. I remember that.</b><b>I remember that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So I guess I, if it got really popular in</b><b>mainstream, I remember it, but</b><b>I didn't follow it.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So I was a sports guy.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You know, I was all in.</b><b>I loved sports.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I've, you know, tracked</b><b>each pro team and all of that.</b><b>It was fun.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>No.</b><b>I mean, I think that, um, so I think we pretty</b><b>much had very similar experiences.</b><b>There's just a few deviations there.</b><b>I think it's interesting.</b><b>If you think about why probably because, um,</b><b>culture is very cultivated, right?</b><b>And TV, everyone watched TV.</b><b>Back then.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>I don't really watch TV anymore.</b><b>I watched the masters</b><b>today, but yeah, off and on.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>But TV really drove things.</b><b>So, you know, it's the news and then all the</b><b>programs we talked about.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then the music, it was the top 40 until</b><b>you, well, but not really.</b><b>Cause I listened, I had older friends, so I was</b><b>listening to the doors and the</b><b>stones and, and, and other bands like that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Led Zeppelin.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Um, AC, DC, all these</b><b>other bands that were not.</b><b>Necessarily top 40, but the culture was very</b><b>cultivated across the whole country.</b><b>It was contained.</b><b>It was contained.</b><b>It was a contained culture.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And you're right.</b><b>Everyone was watching TV.</b><b>Like everyone experienced the</b><b>MTV phenomenon at some point.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And everyone, we all had, yeah, you're right.</b><b>Because the internet's made the world smaller</b><b>by connecting us to the world.</b><b>But we're not all similar.</b><b>We're not all having this.</b><b>I wonder if kids nowadays are</b><b>having as similar experiences as we did,</b><b>because it's just so vast.</b><b>Now, you know, it's funny as I think I told you</b><b>this, but one of my friends on</b><b>Facebook has a freshman in high school up in</b><b>New Jersey, and they posted a picture</b><b>like a lacrosse picture of something.</b><b>All those kids look like all the kids down here</b><b>wearing the same clothes.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>All the same haircut.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>All that same vibe.</b><b>So that's a trip.</b><b>And that could be the connecting</b><b>them to with from social media.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So maybe social media is now the TV.</b><b>Probably, you know, as far as like connecting</b><b>the scrolling, the, the, yeah,</b><b>the culture, the connecting the culture where</b><b>for us, and maybe that's kind of</b><b>taking the place of like movies too, in a way</b><b>is, is you to have been social media</b><b>and all that, I don't know, but you're right.</b><b>Like if you look at social media, the kids, the</b><b>boys all kind of have the same haircut.</b><b>You know, though, if I think about it, I</b><b>remember being in fifth grade and we</b><b>had the teacher's Mr.</b><b>Spice and during, I don't know, whatever, some</b><b>open time during the middle of the</b><b>day, we'd maybe it was rainy or whatever.</b><b>I don't even know, but</b><b>we'd be able to play music.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And I had friends who had played the Beatles.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I never really went, was into the Beatles.</b><b>And I was in AC DC fees back</b><b>then Zeppelin, AC DC stones.</b><b>And so when they got the record</b><b>player, they'd play the Beatles.</b><b>We'd play AC DC.</b><b>And so, but I bet we all watched little house</b><b>on a Prairie or whatever, right?</b><b>The same shows, maybe there's, so there's this</b><b>common theme with deviations.</b><b>And I think that's, we'll always be.</b><b>And it's how it is today.</b><b>Probably.</b><b>It's so funny.</b><b>You say that because when I was</b><b>in sixth grade, my teacher, Mr.</b><b>Hausmann, he's so cool.</b><b>Um, he's a doctor now, like Dr.</b><b>Hausmann, but, um, he had a record player and I</b><b>would bring in all my 45s.</b><b>And I was like the DJ.</b><b>And I think other kids would sometimes bring</b><b>stuff into, but I was so obsessed</b><b>with music and we, and when I didn't play my</b><b>stuff, he would play stuff.</b><b>It was, it was so cool that he did that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You know, I think, I think more teachers, I do</b><b>see it on social media.</b><b>Teachers playing music for their students.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And I think most more teachers should do that.</b><b>Cause especially the younger kids,</b><b>cause it can be calming for them.</b><b>But that's a core memory for me.</b><b>Like that was a positive thing.</b><b>Oh, that reminds me, did</b><b>you guys play four square?</b><b>Not really.</b><b>We played kill the guy</b><b>in football and your boy.</b><b>That was a boy.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So the girls played four square, four square.</b><b>We played dodgeball dodgeball.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Dodgeball was huge.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So we played four square.</b><b>We played dodgeball.</b><b>Um, you didn't play red Rover, right?</b><b>We talked about this another episode.</b><b>We played red.</b><b>That's where you hold, hold your arm.</b><b>You guys didn't play that.</b><b>Do you guys play tag?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah, of course.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We would play tag.</b><b>We play hide and go seek or hide and seek.</b><b>I don't think we played hide and seek.</b><b>Can you ever play kick the can?</b><b>We played kick the can.</b><b>Like when we would be, when I was, when my dad</b><b>lived up north and I would hang</b><b>out with like kids up there, we play kick the</b><b>can in the neighborhood.</b><b>I can't tell you how, what the rules were.</b><b>I can either now that I say it, but I think</b><b>kick the can for us is what</b><b>our kids play when they play.</b><b>Um, remember when they were younger and they</b><b>would play outside manhunt, manhunt.</b><b>No, no, manhunt, manhunt is more like hide and</b><b>seek where you go hide.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And somebody counts to like 60 or</b><b>something and everybody goes hide.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Hides.</b><b>And it would either be like one person's it or</b><b>like a, maybe a couple, I</b><b>think, you know, where I grew</b><b>up, we could, we could hide.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Right.</b><b>And cause it was all trees.</b><b>It was, you know, we could hide.</b><b>And if you didn't want to be</b><b>found, you weren't going to be found.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So then the person person be</b><b>like, all right, I give up.</b><b>And then you'd have to swap up</b><b>and then what was kicked the can.</b><b>I don't remember.</b><b>I just remember like, it was like, you would, I</b><b>don't, I can't even describe it.</b><b>Just remember you had to kick the can or</b><b>something, but then you ran or something.</b><b>Like you kicked the can and ran and then maybe</b><b>tag somebody or something like that.</b><b>Now did you have tether ball?</b><b>Uh, yeah, but that wasn't</b><b>like, I love tether ball.</b><b>Oh my God.</b><b>I would hit that thing.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So did you ever have to climb a rope to the top</b><b>of the ceiling of Jim and all</b><b>that was below you was a mat that was like</b><b>this, that maybe this thin.</b><b>It was a standard wrestling mat.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Like two inches thick.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>And, but you had to climb a rope.</b><b>I never made it.</b><b>I love that shit.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I never made it to the top.</b><b>I don't think they do that.</b><b>If they do that, the, the matter is.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And it sure is liability.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The whole thing.</b><b>Do you remember, did you ever get hot lunch?</b><b>Uh, like at school.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>I used to remember the period.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>It's like that square square.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So that was all the same.</b><b>I didn't really like that.</b><b>I don't know if anyone liked it.</b><b>I think it's just like, uh,</b><b>you can remember the taste of it.</b><b>I didn't, I wasn't into it.</b><b>I grew up in New Jersey.</b><b>We had real pizza, like thin crust.</b><b>This was like, yes.</b><b>I know.</b><b>I'm trying to think what else they serve.</b><b>That was like a common thing.</b><b>I would get, when I was a</b><b>kid, I'd get PB and chase.</b><b>I'd get the peanut butter</b><b>and jelly with chocolate milk.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And then feel like that's all I ate.</b><b>I remember tater tots and tater tots.</b><b>Tater tots were so good.</b><b>Corn dogs.</b><b>We had corn dogs.</b><b>I never had those.</b><b>Uh, I actually never had a corn dog until we</b><b>made it to new move to Oregon.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We used to have sloppy Joe's.</b><b>That was my favorites.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I thought those were disgusting.</b><b>Oh, they were gross.</b><b>So you played the recorder.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Not well.</b><b>No.</b><b>Did you have music class?</b><b>Um, yeah, but it wasn't great.</b><b>I still remember the teacher.</b><b>She wasn't, she didn't, we didn't drive.</b><b>I don't feel like you jived with any teachers.</b><b>No, there was, there had to have been some.</b><b>I think you were a menace.</b><b>No, no, that's not fair.</b><b>I think so.</b><b>So our music class, our music teacher was cool</b><b>and you could go in there and</b><b>play all different types of instruments.</b><b>I remember our music class.</b><b>There were auditions, I think to be in the</b><b>school play or the musical, right?</b><b>To sing at the thing.</b><b>And I remember, no, like in the auditorium or</b><b>the lunchroom, the cafeteria.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And the parents, you know, it was Christmas</b><b>show that kind of thing.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Back then it was Christmas.</b><b>Now it's holiday.</b><b>Um, and, uh, I remember there were like, come</b><b>try out and sign up and get the</b><b>goods on what's going to happen.</b><b>I remember myself and a handful of my buddies</b><b>show up and she's like,</b><b>she just said no to you right away.</b><b>But she was like, you guys are not serious.</b><b>You're here just to get out of your class.</b><b>You know, tell me, is that the case?</b><b>If that's the case, you need to leave.</b><b>We're like, all right, whatever.</b><b>Oh my God.</b><b>So she knew, she's like, absolutely not.</b><b>So did you take home?</b><b>Um, in seventh or eighth</b><b>grade, I actually really enjoyed it.</b><b>You liked home.</b><b>What did you like about home?</b><b>Um, the lady who taught it was super nice.</b><b>It was an older lady.</b><b>Super nice.</b><b>Um, I actually made a pillow, a black pillow</b><b>with, um, it was a Billy Idol pillow.</b><b>So it was like white letters.</b><b>You know, you had to cut it and</b><b>sew it and stuff it and all that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I made a pillow.</b><b>I made a hamburger.</b><b>I think it was a hamburger.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>Did you have wood shop?</b><b>Yeah, that was my favorite.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I only took it once.</b><b>I think, but I made a</b><b>cutting board, which we still have.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>I need to fix that.</b><b>They should still offer home.</b><b>I can move up in class.</b><b>I'm I'm, I think it's, I</b><b>understand, uh, having technology classes.</b><b>And I think that's important, but I think there</b><b>needs to be a balance and I think</b><b>they should bring back home back.</b><b>And I think they should bring back wood shop.</b><b>I think it's critical</b><b>because think about it, right?</b><b>I was a menace probably for most of my classes.</b><b>But when I got to wood shop, I loved it.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Home. Mac.</b><b>I loved it for whatever reason.</b><b>Home Mac.</b><b>I mean, I was like, yeah, but</b><b>they know it's stereotypical.</b><b>It doesn't make sense, but</b><b>you were using your hands.</b><b>You were like doing something where you weren't</b><b>having to sit and listen or read.</b><b>You could actually do something.</b><b>We actually had a plastic class too, where, um,</b><b>they had sheets of plastic,</b><b>different colors, and you could make things.</b><b>So you'd have to use the jigsaw or the band saw</b><b>and cut a pattern and then go</b><b>over to like the sanding machine or the lathe,</b><b>then to the buffing machine and</b><b>stuff.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I mean, I made like spoons or some spoons, but</b><b>like a spreader or something.</b><b>Really?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We hadn't, we didn't have anything like that.</b><b>No, we had wood shop and we</b><b>had, um, uh, home and tight.</b><b>Oh, typing class.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>We had to take typing class.</b><b>I think kids should have to do that.</b><b>Still.</b><b>A hundred percent.</b><b>I think they should definitely, so many kids</b><b>just type with their fingers.</b><b>You know what it is?</b><b>I think it's almost like those other classes</b><b>tap into, they just, there's</b><b>different parts of your brain and use.</b><b>So like for me to go to a math class, it's</b><b>like, uh, but to go to like wood</b><b>shop, that's yeah.</b><b>And stuff.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>No, I think it's a great way</b><b>to grab those kids like that.</b><b>So I think they should still,</b><b>did you ever have a pet rock?</b><b>I don't think so.</b><b>Oh my God.</b><b>I told, I had, I had a few.</b><b>Really?</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>I love my pet rocks.</b><b>Did you have a rabbit's foot?</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We would win a rabbit's foot at that.</b><b>So every year there was a</b><b>carnival in town at the church.</b><b>You went to it, the heart lady, the Lake</b><b>church, and you would win a, uh, uh,</b><b>rabbit's foot for doing some, it's something</b><b>like either fish or rabbit's.</b><b>But what color was your rabbit's foot?</b><b>I think I had one every year.</b><b>It's like wider.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So yeah, I feel like, I feel like mine was</b><b>white, but I can't tell her.</b><b>I had, I had a pet rock that</b><b>I loved and a rabbit's foot.</b><b>And I remember I would</b><b>win goldfish at carnival.</b><b>I'd keep those things alive as long as I could.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Did you collect anything?</b><b>Um, you know, actually I had</b><b>a baseball card collection.</b><b>That was pretty expensive.</b><b>We still have it.</b><b>Oh, we do.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You're right.</b><b>I forgot about that.</b><b>I actually had, and this is funny.</b><b>This is part of that gen X piece.</b><b>Probably.</b><b>I had a matchbook collection.</b><b>Of cars.</b><b>Oh, no.</b><b>Of matches.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So when we'd go to the, a</b><b>restaurant, I'd get matches.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>If we, and a place has had matches.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That's just another thing.</b><b>Right.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Restaurants.</b><b>My, I think I would play with them.</b><b>I would play with the matches and light them</b><b>and light the whole book</b><b>on fire and throw it out.</b><b>And you sit like that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You not, Gen X not</b><b>supervised just lighting matches.</b><b>I feel like I was supervised by uncles or aunts</b><b>or whoever that are like, Oh, that's cool.</b><b>Whatever.</b><b>Um, I remember, I think my mom had a glass jar</b><b>that she had a bunch of match.</b><b>I think that was a thing</b><b>you would grab matches.</b><b>Everyone had matches.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You just take them.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>A hundred percent.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I used to collect stamps or stickers.</b><b>Oh, everybody had a sticker collection.</b><b>They got a sticker book.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I was all about the stickers.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I'm trying to think other than Barbies and</b><b>stuff, but I think stickers was my main thing.</b><b>And then the pet rock and the rabbit's foot.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I'm sure there was something else.</b><b>What, what pets did you have as a kid?</b><b>Dogs.</b><b>That's it.</b><b>Oh no.</b><b>And a goldfish.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>I think that's it.</b><b>You never had, you know</b><b>how like we have a fish tank.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Multiple fish tanks.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Multiple fish tanks.</b><b>No, no, nothing, nothing required maintenance.</b><b>Maintenance dogs.</b><b>You had, you had dogs.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We always had dogs.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And, um, and I really have</b><b>any hobbies other than music.</b><b>I think that was my main hobby.</b><b>Was music.</b><b>I don't even know what a hobby would be.</b><b>I, I used to fish a lot.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That's like a hobby.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You played sports.</b><b>Played sports.</b><b>I played sports a little.</b><b>Um, my hobby was surviving.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I mean, my, another, well, a collection would</b><b>have been once I got into the dead</b><b>and collecting cassettes, right?</b><b>That's, yeah.</b><b>Well, no adults, please.</b><b>You, you, you have multiple</b><b>hobbies and own all the things.</b><b>You're a serial hobbyist.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So I always say it's your way of hoarding</b><b>because hoarding runs in your family.</b><b>It's more of a coped.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>There you go.</b><b>Well, you marry a Gen X woman.</b><b>You need to cope.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That's yeah.</b><b>Oh, and vice versa, dude.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>But yeah.</b><b>So I think, I think we covered it.</b><b>That anything I can't think of anything else</b><b>right now, but if we think of more</b><b>things, we'll do a part two.</b><b>With, I know I am.</b><b>I am too.</b><b>Anyone to, you know, I would love, I would love</b><b>to know if anyone heard some</b><b>of this stuff and was like, Oh yeah.</b><b>And remembered.</b><b>The only other thing I can think of would be,</b><b>um, the merry-go-rounds, the, the,</b><b>what the hell is that called?</b><b>The seesaw.</b><b>Oh my gosh.</b><b>The teeter totter.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The teeter totter thing.</b><b>That was so dangerous.</b><b>Totally.</b><b>And then you dip and</b><b>someone would fall and get hurt.</b><b>You'd laugh and you'd go, totally.</b><b>And then what about the spinny thing?</b><b>I think it was the best.</b><b>And then like you'd hang your head off of it.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Oh my gosh.</b><b>You think about that now.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And all of our playground equipment was metal.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>The slide was metal.</b><b>So when it's hot, being on swings and getting</b><b>as high as you can and jumping off.</b><b>I didn't, I didn't jump off, but the slide,</b><b>when you go down the slide, it was hot.</b><b>Oh my gosh.</b><b>It would burn your thighs.</b><b>And then the jungle gym was metal.</b><b>We used to hang from it or the</b><b>handle, the bars we would hang.</b><b>You do the monkey bars.</b><b>I would get blisters.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I get blisters on my hands.</b><b>There was everything was metal.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You know, when, and as you</b><b>know, I grew up around action park,</b><b>which they made the movie on.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>So it's the Alpine slide, the</b><b>water slides and all that shit.</b><b>And that's a whole other, someone died there.</b><b>I think of multiple times.</b><b>Sure.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Then they finally shut it down.</b><b>Well, yeah, I don't, I</b><b>don't, yeah, I don't know.</b><b>There were multiple injuries per day.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I don't know if there were, I don't recall</b><b>deaths per se, but I'm sure</b><b>that one person died.</b><b>They did a documentary</b><b>on, I think someone did die.</b><b>Did you go to it?</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>It was like a daily, not daily.</b><b>Uh, it was 30 minutes away.</b><b>It was up where the spot was.</b><b>Right.</b><b>So yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So you went to action park and you would</b><b>actually go on the rides.</b><b>Oh, a hundred percent.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Like the rides that they eventually shut down.</b><b>Well, you know, they, if you watch the movie,</b><b>it's a very accurate depiction.</b><b>They would try different things.</b><b>Like they showed that one where you go in and</b><b>you're, you're like the human, right?</b><b>You're not on and you go like this.</b><b>I never did that, but the Alpine slide, the</b><b>swing that launches you into the</b><b>water, the like go-kart things, bumper boats.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So that was something you did in the summer.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>It was action park.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We did another one.</b><b>We had Tomahawk Lake.</b><b>I don't know if you ever</b><b>took, you ever take the kids?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Cause I heard someone died there.</b><b>So I wouldn't take them.</b><b>I don't know if I don't recall that, but it's</b><b>possible, but that was fun.</b><b>Someone drown.</b><b>You'd get a mat.</b><b>I think we'd do it on a mat.</b><b>I think, I think so.</b><b>Or maybe you just went on your skin, but you</b><b>had to walk up to the top and they</b><b>had two things and it would take you down into</b><b>a pool of water and that was fun.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Now we, I got hurt a few times on it, but we</b><b>didn't have the, we had that one thing</b><b>in Portland, it's like a Knott's Berry farm</b><b>type thing, but I can't remember</b><b>the name of it.</b><b>It'll come to me.</b><b>We did everything dangerous like that.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We had a lot of things.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Not that I can think of.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>We had people would ski up on Mount hood and go</b><b>sledding up there, but, um, no,</b><b>nothing, nothing I can think of that's.</b><b>Action park was, uh, was action park in the</b><b>summer and it was a ski place.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>No, you're, you went to the place that they</b><b>made a documentary about.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And honestly, I mean, they, I</b><b>don't think they embellished.</b><b>No, it didn't sound like it.</b><b>It didn't seem like it at all.</b><b>So you watched it, right?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>No, I thought it was hilarious.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So we actually had the Playboy club too.</b><b>You did.</b><b>So from across action park, you could look</b><b>across and there was a Playboy club.</b><b>Yes.</b><b>We'd go to that as kids.</b><b>What a time.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Action park in the Playboy club.</b><b>That's and on that note, that's a great way to</b><b>route because Playboy was a big thing</b><b>too.</b><b>Playboy bunnies.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That was a big thing.</b><b>You know, the other thing I, um, I don't think</b><b>the kids do it today because they</b><b>don't need to, they can just go</b><b>on porn hub or some other website.</b><b>But we used to, um, get playboys</b><b>or wheeze or hustlers or whatever.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You know, remember we go into seven 11 or, and</b><b>there'd be like a cover, you</b><b>know, so you couldn't see it.</b><b>That was a whole thing.</b><b>My buddies discovered that they just threw away</b><b>the old, uh, what, uh, issues.</b><b>Issues.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So I never dumpster dive, but I think they did</b><b>for porn for Playboy and stuff.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Porn.</b><b>That was the porn back then.</b><b>That was Gen X porn.</b><b>That's hilarious.</b><b>It is funny.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>So I think on that note, we'll, we'll stop.</b><b>Um, but if we, uh, if we get enough memories</b><b>together, we'll do a part two of this.</b><b>So hopefully for anyone listening, this was an</b><b>enjoyable, uh, trip down memory</b><b>lane and unlock some core memories for you.</b><b>And if you have any others, please leave them</b><b>in the comments because it</b><b>almost feels like a lie</b><b>and people could interact.</b><b>Actually, that might be a good thing to do is</b><b>we'll do a live on this stuff too.</b><b>With our TV dinners.</b><b>Also, if you have any good snacks or, um, food</b><b>that you ate as a Gen X or please</b><b>leave that in the comments, because we would</b><b>love to pick up some stuff and</b><b>maybe do a Tik TOK live or Instagram or</b><b>Facebook live, something like that,</b><b>or film, do something.</b><b>So anyways, hopefully</b><b>everyone had fun with this.</b><b>We certainly did.</b><b>And we will see you next time.</b><b>Bye.</b>